"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What would you do?

bigshovel

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Ok, question for you guys.

I have been booty calling back and forth with this girl for like 8 or 9 months. Literally our relationship is just that we are somewhat friends, but mostly she gives me the booty call, and I call her also. I would say she calls me 2- 3 times as much as I do her, and we probably have sex 2x a week

Well about 3 weeks ago she tells me she just started dating this guy. I know who the dude is, but he is not a “friend” of mine per say, more of an acquaintance. He is a friend off a friend who I see once in a while.

So, Saturday night the girl calls me for the booty call.

Now 2 things

#1 I know she is still dating the guy, she openly admits that to me, she doesn’t even try to hide it.

#2 I know for a fact she hasn’t slept with this dude yet.

In your opinion, should I continue to booty call with her? I hate to do this to the guy, but I have been doing this with her for months.

Also, I can’t figure out why she hasn’t slept with dude yet. Either she really doesn’t like him, or she wants to have sex with him, but is using me to satisfy her needs so she don’t look like a ho jumping right into bed with him

Any advice or comments?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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What should you do? Thank your lucky stars that you've been getting booty calls and that you're not me.
 

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She called again last night. This time it was more of a call to feel me out to see how I felt about her dating this guy.

I told her I am happy for her, and it wouldn't be fair to him if we kept up our previous relationship and that she should give him a fair shot if she really likes him. I also told her we can TRY to continue to be friends, but that there will be no more sex.

Near the end of the conve, she all but admitted she started dating this gut to see how I would react and to see if I would ask her to be my girlfriend.

I told her I don't play those kinds of games, and her doing that to me is just a precursor of things to come if I did date her.

I told her that she should stay with the guy she was dating, because he knew about me and he still dated her and that he was just the kind of AFC she needed because he let her get away with her games.

Do you think I was too rough on her?
 

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Man, that was brilliantly put. No way were you rough on her, it was great to read someone who has their thoughts together and has no problem telling a girl what he wants and wont put up with....brilliant.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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women know what they are doing.


Do you think if she REALLY liked him, you would have to tell her to stop ****ing you?

Now, this guy isn't your real friend, so why do you give a flying flip about him?

The girl told you she started dating a guy, and then proceed to call you and tell you she still wanted to have sex.

So why didn't hse call her new BF for sex? instead calling you?

Now, that's just my point of view. If she would have said "hey, we are getting married" I would have told her to stop calling. If she was even in serious realationship I would do the same. But how serious can it be if they haven't been together 2 weeks and she is already calling you for sex instead of him?

And then again, if it were that serious, you wouldn't have to tell her that, she would be telilng you.
 

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okay, I actually read the 2nd post now. Good job, very good job, way to call her on her BS. Me personally I would have still been laying the pipe to her, but that's me.
 

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On the nose with that one!!!!!!!!

You couldn't have said it any better, good job!
 
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