"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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What would you do?

vatoloco

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Kailex said:
But when it's an LTR, the whole deal is different because it's someone who seemed reliable enough that you decided to keep around...
I don't know the OP's background but, I'm gonna play devil's advocate here and say: what if the situation is actually backwards? As in she was the one who decided to keep him around (maybe as filler) until the next branch is ready. I could see that situation applying based on the major disrespect displayed on her part.


A plate I've been seeing for a bit now is ALWAYS on time, and the ONLY time she's EVER been late... she called ahead of time to let me know she'd be running late. It's not only a "DATE" thing, it's a "common courtesy" thing.
This is something that I'm noticing more and more with friends, acquaintances, etc: they accept being discourteous towards them? Why? Are people's self-esteem that low nowadays?

Anyway, to answer the OP's question, I've never had this happen to me in a LTR (though it's happened a few times with new plates) but what I do in that case is leave. Yep. After 15 mins, I just get up and leave. No phone call, no text. Nothing. I either go home, go run errands, go have a drink or go sarge.

They then call/text me and and ask "Where are you? I'm here!" "Sweetheart, I'm a busy man. I only wait 15 mins..."
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Kailex said:
So conclusion: It's not that she's late, it's that she didn't think so much of being late that she couldn't even have the common sense and courtesy to let him know in advance that she wasn't going to be on time. He should NEVER have to call to see why she is late, and much less she answer thinking that nothing is wrong.
THis is it ^^
" ..she didn't think so much of being late (and of him) that she couldn't even have the COMMON SENSE and the COURTESY to let him know ,,," Yep !

I agree that a guy should NEVER have to call her to see why she is late. It is her job to be punctual, or to apologize and inform us in a timely, courteous manner is she is going to be delayed.

IT is NOT a woman's perogative to turn up late . IT is not acceptable for her to adopt a belief that she is doing you a favor, and you should wait on her royal entrance, at HER convenience,

Accept nothing less, gentlemen.
 

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vatoloco said:
They then call/text me and and ask "Where are you? I'm here!" "Sweetheart, I'm a busy man. I only wait 15 mins..."
Ten minutes is my limit ( without a text or phone call from her ).

IF you do leave, and she arrives 30 minutes late to see an empty bar stool, she will do one of two things the next day after she recovers from the shock - She will call you and profusely apologize and offer another outing as a peace offering ....

OR she will just do nothing and not contact you ever again .

IF she contacts you and offers to "make it up" you have a woman with some quality who is showing remorse and that she also understands her sins.

IF she freezes you out you just dodged a bullet.
This is the type of woman who would then call all her girls and baitch about the guy who "abandoned" her just because she was "a little bit late" ( and of course it wasn't her fault that she was running late).

Ove all the years that I have been dating women, I've noticed that somethings never change.
 

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jophil28 said:
IF she contacts you and offers to "make it up" you have a woman with some quality who is showing remorse and that she also understands her sins.
And this is something important that a lot of people fail to understand. Jophil said it. She displays SOME quality.

Because remember, if she's late and can't be bothered with making a 1 minute call explaining why she's late ahead of time, then she's lacking SOME quality. But how she makes it up to you the next time will define WHAT qualities she still possesses other than a lapse in common sense and courtesy.

IF she freezes you out you just dodged a bullet.
This is the type of woman who would then call all her girls and baitch about the guy who "abandoned" her just because she was "a little bit late" ( and of course it wasn't her fault that she was running late).

On a side note, I saw this happen a lot when I used to work at a bar. I'd see the woman arrive to a group of friends who was already there and she'd go off on a rant about some guy who took off because she was late.

Every single time, it never failed that the women would join in on the rant but not a single one would ask:

"Well, why were you late? Did you call him to let him know?"

God forbid she'd have to tell the truth about how it was most likely her fault.
 
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