Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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What would SS be like if it charged a fee?

Atom Smasher

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Relax... We're not discussing implementing a fee structure over in the mod's corner. No, we're too busy dividing up our income from the fake spam we occasionally inject into the forum. :D

But seriously, let's do a thought exercise. I like Warrior's old statement that this place has a high signal-to-noise ratio, but that there's a lot of value here. I agree with that assessment.

Question: What would this site be like if there was a ten or fifteen dollar monthly fee to participate? What kind of man would stay here, what kind of man would join, and what kind of man would drop out?

How would the nature of discussion change? Would quality and value change for the better or for the worse? In what other ways would the climate here change? Would the site even sustain?

I thought it would be interesting for us to kick this idea around a little. We might uncover some useful information about ourselves in the process. Again, fret not; There are no plans (that I know of) for any kind of fee. This is simply an exercise that has the potential to give us clarity on the current culture and dynamics here.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Atom Smasher said:
Question: What would this site be like if there was a ten or fifteen dollar monthly fee to participate? What kind of man would stay here, what kind of man would join, and what kind of man would drop out?
Personally? I think only the desperate ones would stay. I dont pay monthly fees to hang out with my friends or to give advice. Its free. DJ come from a place of abundance and to just blow off some steam.

Also, I think alot of PUA 'experts' would join and push their own products instead of actually giving advice.


I use SS because its fun and its helped me talk out some of my own roadblocks or unique situations. I would miss the culture here but I think putting a price on SS would cheapen the overall quality of discussion and slow peoples improvement.
 

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Youll end up with 2 extremes from each side of the spectrum

Youll have the hopeless desperates and the ones whove been here since day one, the veterans.

Anyone in between will leave. A huge chunk of the social posters here will disappear and the forum will turn into pure AFC topics. Thats my $0.02 though
 

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It will be empty.

Simply to many other forum like this.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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The most knowledgable members would disappear. They have already internalized most of SS's knowledge and can handle themselves without this place, so why would they pay for it?

But the guys who are still AFC's or recovering AFC's would be willing to pay because SS still has much to offer to them.

In other words, the DJ's would leave and the AFC's would stay, so the place would deteriorate and all the poor AFC's would just have to try to help each other to their best abilities. It would be the blind leading the blind, lol.

It would be the end of civilization, the battle against feminism would be lost and all men would be turned into mindless slaves in a world ruled by women...


But hey, none of this is ever gonna happen. If SS would charge a fee, Naughty Ninja would pay for all the other members, coz he'd rather die than lose his audience...
 
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But hey, none of this is ever gonna happen. If SS would charge a fee, Naughty Ninja would pay for all the other members, coz he'd rather die than lose his audience...

How would he do that since he's been banned for life and a day?
 

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This place would lose at least 50% of it's users.
 

zekko

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I agree with DragonBlood, I think only desperate people would stay. The kind of people who pay for PUA products.

I would never pay for a message board, too many free ones around. Same reason I won't get XM/Sirius radio. I refuse to pay for radio, just on principle.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Die Hard

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How would he do that since he's been banned for life and a day?
LOL! I thought you were joking but I see he was indeed banned. No idea what he did to deserve that but I'm sure he had it coming...
 

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It should be obvious... NaughtyProduct is "The Artist Formerly Known as NaughtyNinja".
 

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Then ban his ass as well, lol.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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How about just pay a fee in order to post?

People would still visit. But only dedicated members could interact.

I think this would get rid of a lot of the nonsense in the forums.
 

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You might have to add some features.... like a d1ck sucking machine module that pops up out of your computer whenever you log in.

It's actually not a bad idea IMO. $10 might be too much, a $3 maintenance fee might do the trick. Just enough to keep trolls out and enough to keep the rest on board.

It would be a tighter community. And, you could lift the 10 posts a day limit.

Or....

Just an example, you could change the post limit to 2 per day, unless you're a paying member, then it could be unlimited.
 
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White Boy said:
How about just pay a fee in order to post?

People would still visit. But only dedicated members could interact.

I think this would get rid of a lot of the nonsense in the forums.

Atom Smasher is BUSTED for bumping his own threads and trolling under his whiteboy username.
 
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