"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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What women really want

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Women can't stand for guys to worry about them. They want the guy that they have to worry about. They want a guy who doesn't call or doesn't seem to care as much. If you care more, and constantly show her that you will be waiting or worried about where she is or what she's doing, then YOU LOSE. You've put her on the pedestal, and the guy that doesn't really care is taking your woman.

Ever noticed how much you cared and the woman still treated you like nothing you ever did mattered. Well, that's how you have to treat them. Let them latch on. Let them call all the time. Let them worry. THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT!

They will let a man do whatever he wants as long as they are the one's that have to worry about the relationship, so LET THEM WORRY.

No more Mr. Nice guy. Treat 'em like they've been treating you, and watch what happens. They'll be SO up your a$$ it ain't even funny.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Unfortunately,this is true.
 

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Mavrick said:
Women can't stand for a guy to worry about them. They want the guy that they have to worry about. They want a guy who doesn't call or doesn't seem to care as much. If you care more, and constantly show her that you will be waiting or worried about where she is or what she's doing, then YOU LOSE. You've put her on the pedestal, and the guy that doesn't really care is taking your woman.

Ever noticed how much you cared and the woman still treated you like nothing you ever did mattered. Well, that's how you have to treat them. Let them latch on. Let them call all the time. Let them worry. THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT!

They will let a man do whatever he wants as long as they are the one's that have to worry about the relationship, so LET THEM WORRY.

No more Mr. Nice guy. Treat 'em like they've been treating you, and watch what happens. They'll be SO up your a$$ it ain't even funny
MAV, whats up man. You nailed it with this post. doesnt anyone take a step back and realize how twisted minded women are? you treat them with love, care and understanding and you get walked on and taken advantage of. Its just sick.
 

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HAHA, Sinatra said it best, "show me a man who has feelings and i'll show you a sucker". Words of wisdom from the biggest gigolo ever.

But seriously I think what you say is true... up to a point.
 

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It sends out a powerful message.

You can care for the woman and look out for her but you have to show her you don't need her and you can walk away any time.

If you show you need the woman less then she needs you then that makes you higher value and more attractive.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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daring wraith said:
HAHA, Sinatra said it best, "show me a man who has feelings and i'll show you a sucker". Words of wisdom from the biggest gigolo ever.

But seriously I think what you say is true... up to a point.
And as P T Barnum maybe once said, "There's a sucker born every minute", unfortunately....
 

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02hero said:
And as P T Barnum maybe once said, "There's a sucker born every minute", unfortunately....
come, come, come, my dear fellow romantic, we need "suckers", they give life scenery, allowing the real actors to steal the show.
 

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This thread can be summed up in one simple phrase:

Don't be a needy wuss.
 

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my thoughts exactly, but here's a question...

Why do they try to fool everyone with the 'I want a sensitive man blah blah blah' stuff? If they want excitement, wouldn't it be classier just to tell everyone? Or do they really believe that they want a 'nice guy'?
 

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Mavrick said:
Women can't stand for guys to worry about them. They want the guy that they have to worry about. They want a guy who doesn't call or doesn't seem to care as much. If you care more, and constantly show her that you will be waiting or worried about where she is or what she's doing, then YOU LOSE. You've put her on the pedestal, and the guy that doesn't really care is taking your woman.

Ever noticed how much you cared and the woman still treated you like nothing you ever did mattered. Well, that's how you have to treat them. Let them latch on. Let them call all the time. Let them worry. THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT!

They will let a man do whatever he wants as long as they are the one's that have to worry about the relationship, so LET THEM WORRY.

No more Mr. Nice guy. Treat 'em like they've been treating you, and watch what happens. They'll be SO up your a$$ it ain't even funny.

Very, very true Mavrick. This is the strong point of my game. Naturally, I don't really care too much about things, so it's not that hard for me.

But it's awesome to play it cool and watch ur phone blow up. Girls subconciously love this shyt.

Great advice.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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MascaraSnake said:
Why do they try to fool everyone with the 'I want a sensitive man blah blah blah' stuff? If they want excitement, wouldn't it be classier just to tell everyone? Or do they really believe that they want a 'nice guy'?
One of the biggest things I got from SS is that what a woman thinks she wants is often times not what she actually responds to or truly desires.

Always read a woman by what she DOES... not what she SAYS.
 

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Mavrick said:
Women can't stand for guys to worry about them. They want the guy that they have to worry about. They want a guy who doesn't call or doesn't seem to care as much. If you care more, and constantly show her that you will be waiting or worried about where she is or what she's doing, then YOU LOSE. You've put her on the pedestal, and the guy that doesn't really care is taking your woman.

Ever noticed how much you cared and the woman still treated you like nothing you ever did mattered. Well, that's how you have to treat them. Let them latch on. Let them call all the time. Let them worry. THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT!

They will let a man do whatever he wants as long as they are the one's that have to worry about the relationship, so LET THEM WORRY.

No more Mr. Nice guy. Treat 'em like they've been treating you, and watch what happens. They'll be SO up your a$$ it ain't even funny.
This and a good d!ck :woo:
 

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One of the biggest things I got from SS is that what a woman thinks she wants is often times not what she actually responds to or truly desires.

Always read a woman by what she DOES... not what she SAYS.
:up: +1
 

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It's like you turn around and say hi to a woman that you met the other night, but she's so unimportant (even though she's so damn fine) you turn around and return to what you were doing (drinking at the bar and watching the football game). The next thing you know the woman won't leave you. Yea, she'll play little games where she hugs guys she knows, but as long as you show you could give a fvck less, she'll be right back by your side telling you why those guys aren't of any interest.

Seriously guys, you can't care. You can't spend all damn night on the phone with her. You can't buy gifts for her. You just have to do.... well.......

Nothing...

Girls want guys that do nothing.

Her: "Omg, I have a flat tire"
You: "Well, call roadside assistance"
Her: "You a$$hole"
You: "Ok, thank you"

They want a guy that they have to worry about. They don't want the guy that worries about them. It's so true, and each and every one of you must learn this fact.
 

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True, but how would you bring this idea into an LTR that you would like to keep?
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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This is a loaded post and very true. I was in a relationship, and eventually did the whole phone where I'd say "Where are you? Who are you with? Why didn't you call me and let me know what was going on today, I wanted to see you?!"

And I lost. After a year of being with the girl. Even in an LTR, stay that unpredictable guy who doesn't call back and keep having her call you as much as possible, not vice versa.
 

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Mavrick said:
Yea, she'll play little games where she hugs guys she knows, but as long as you show you could give a fvck less, she'll be right back by your side telling you why those guys aren't of any interest.

Seriously guys, you can't care. You can't spend all damn night on the phone with her. You can't buy gifts for her. You just have to do.... well.......
Thats another thing I notice. One female "friend" of mine is always chatting online but I don't really care. She always tells me how little interest she has for them etc..


JFun said:
One of the biggest things I got from SS is that what a woman thinks she wants is often times not what she actually responds to or truly desires.

Always read a woman by what she DOES... not what she SAYS.
This is so true! Women will say all sorts of things to test you and also protect their egos.
Always read a woman by what she DOES... not what she SAYS.
 

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I had a girl tell me that she only does oral sex with a guy she really likes and is more likely to have sex with someone casually.

She gave me head that night.

Then I had the same girl tell me "I could never really have feelings for you, you're just a friend." and then a few days later say "Kevin I'm going to be blunt. I might like you..."

You might as well keep those thoughts to yourself girl. (By the way this is a girl I did porn with, the only time we've had sex is when we were getting paid. But she has given me head for free several times when we were just hanging out or when I was going to her house to pay her and play a game or 2 of pool.)
 

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Don't get me wrong though. You still have to show that you like her. You still have to be affectionate with her and be rewarding when she does something you like, but just don't be that guy that's worried about where she is and what she's doing. Don't be that guy that wears out his welcome. Don't be predictable. Just don't call sometimes when you say you will or answer the phone even though you know you want to.

Women want men that don't worry about them. That's basically where I'm going. If you worry about them, then you're a pvssy. If you worry about them, then they'll be turned off.

No worries!
 

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With this particular girl that I just mentioned, I started doing nice things. I'd still be a d!ck, flirt with girls, make fun of her, etc. But I'd pick her up, instead of let her drive. I'd pay her early. I'd pay for the movies we'd rent. I basically showed her that I don't only hang out with her when sex is the ulterior motive. Basically, if sex was all I wanted, then I have other people to call for that. I showed her that I enjoy her company.

Now she likes me so it's time for her to go. It's time to kick her ass out the door. I should of kept our relationship strictly business (porn) instead of trying to make her enjoy me more thinking that would make her want to work more scenes with me. Since we started going to the movies and going out to eat my numbers have been DOWN. and, she likes me. I should of kept it professional. Yesterday we were laying in bed and she told me she trusts me. Wtf? I don't even trust me. I'm a sick fvck to be honest and little do you know I am selling videos of me nailing you and not letting you see any of the residual profits. I'm a scum bag.

However next time we work together I'm sure the sex will be better, knowing she's not only doing it for work.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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