"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What will people think if I come back alpha?

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Let me describe how I was my freshman year. I always had a mad look on my face. I walked very fast. I didn't swing my arms when I walked. I never talked to anyone, except for a friend in my art class. I sat alone every lunch period. I was very skinny.

What will people think if I come back without a mad look on my face? On top of that, walking slowly? On top of that, swinging my arms? On top of that, talking to people? On top of that, a layer of muscle, a tan, a facial, and a shave?

What the hell am I supposed to say if people ask me why I'm talking or why I don't look mad or why I swing my arms or why I walk fast? Say I just changed somehow? But then they will question me why I didn't talk or why I looked mad or why I didn't swing my arms or why I walked fast.

I can't even masturbate without porn cause thinking about girls from my high school reminds me of all the mistakes I've made. I learn from my mistakes, yet I never seem to forgive myself for doing them.
 
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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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If you were not acting alpha...

chances are they didn't even notice you....


So I am sure you will be fine
 

War Against Betaism

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You're getting ahead of yourself here. Not to put you down or anything, but like OamImrsNemo said, no one would have probably noticed you/cared enough to analyze your body language anyways. But the very fact that you're asking this question shows that you have a longs way to go before becoming "alpha".
 

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War Against Betaism said:
But the very fact that you're asking this question shows that you have a longs way to go before becoming "alpha".
This. Being alpha is not giving a **** about what other people think but like the two guys above me said, you probably weren't really that noticed anyway because you were basically a loner. Change yourself for yourself.
 

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War Against Betaism said:
You're getting ahead of yourself here. Not to put you down or anything, but like OamImrsNemo said, no one would have probably noticed you/cared enough to analyze your body language anyways. But the very fact that you're asking this question shows that you have a longs way to go before becoming "alpha".
Just what I was going to say.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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1. yeah sh1t man, no one is going to care if they didnt' notice you before
2. if they do notice, that's fvcking good isn't it? you'll now have people checking you out and maybe you'll get some friends
3. who gives a fvck what the majority of people think, they don't dictate your life, YOU dictate your life, do whatever the fvck you want
4. if you dwell on your past too much/can't get over and LEARN from some stupid mistakes you made, then you'll never advance. think about your mistakes, think how you could have done better, MOVE ON AND DO BETTER
 

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War Against Betaism said:
You're getting ahead of yourself here. Not to put you down or anything, but like OamImrsNemo said, no one would have probably noticed you/cared enough to analyze your body language anyways. But the very fact that you're asking this question shows that you have a longs way to go before becoming "alpha".
Is "beta" and "alpha" the same thing as, "type A personality" and "type B personality"? I'm 100% type A. I also have social anxiety.

Where is a good place for a 15 year old to talk to people during the summer, with lots of random people?
OamImrsNemo said:
If you were not acting alpha...

chances are they didn't even notice you....


So I am sure you will be fine
Who didn't notice me? The people in my class? There is on average, about 15 people per class. After math class, I was sometimes the center of attention.
 

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people wont notice. trust me, i used to ask myself the EXACT same thing and worry about it all the time. eventually i just said what the f*ck and just acted differently; i was funnier, talked to people i usually didnt talk to, greeted everyone, etc. i recall my final solution to the problem was just how funny the look of surprise would be on peoples' faces once theyve seen how much ive changed. wanna know what the wierd thing was though? that didnt happen at all. people didnt even f*ckin notice. not even my friends noticed how much more interesting i had become. not one person said anything along the lines of 'my, youve changed' or 'are you hyper/high right now?' or 'wow youre in a good mood'. they just went along with it. it was like they were waiting for this to happen the whole time, or they just didnt say anything about it and just accepted it, or something i dunno. really its like no one cares that you BECAME interesting, they only care if you ARE interesting. i mean i made a lot more friends after i changed (which by the way was mid school year, so i thought it was going to be even harsher than if i had done it over summer or over a break or something), so i definitely had changed, it was just that no one really noticed.

if you think about it it kinda makes sense, i mean think of a shy kid you know. now think of him returning next year, and hes a really friendly, social guy. you see this and youre probably just gonna think to yourself 'hey, he finally came out of his shell/matured'. then you might go talk to him or something. there really isnt anything wierd or surprising about it. its really actually completely normal, expected even, especially for teenagers. teenagers are SUPPOSED to change. we do it all the time. youre supposed to mature as a teenager, its how you become an adult. i mean you cant be a shy kid forever. you gotta come out sometime. everyone is just waiting for you to do that. and no one is going to be surprised when you finally do. no one will even say anything. theyll be happy for you. and then they wont think anymore of it, because all people care about is who you are NOW, not who you WERE. think about all the times your impression of someone changed because they changed. you didnt think ' omygosh they changed, wieerd' you thought 'hey, this guy is actually kinda cool now' or 'jeez he/she turned into a total b*tch'. see what i mean? just think of people around you who have changed, and think of what you thought. im willing to bet that the fact that they changed didnt surprise you, it was what they became that mattered to you, and that was what determined what, at that moment, they were labeled as, not what they were before.

hope that helps, this is a subject im kinda familiar with as i had hardships with this exact thing. i think i even made my own topic about this subject once a while back....
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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War Against Betaism

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Vitanoid said:
Is "beta" and "alpha" the same thing as, "type A personality" and "type B personality"? I'm 100% type A. I also have social anxiety.
No, putting it that way means that the "two personalities" are different but on equal levels. Difference between alpha and beta is an alpha is far above the level of a beta.

Where is a good place for a 15 year old to talk to people during the summer, with lots of random people?
A 15 year old? That's a tough one; without an established group of friends you're pretty much fighting an uphill battle here. If you play a sport, particularly basketball, it's easy to meet people left and right. I've made some great relationships with people I've met at my YMCA and some of them even took me to parties.

BTW check your PM.
 

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be carefull not to be seen as all arrogant now
If you were a loner, u need to work on building up a good social network first and foremeost
 

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kingsam said:
be carefull not to be seen as all arrogant now
If you were a loner, u need to work on building up a good social network first and foremeost
People like arrogant and funny. But that's a good idea. Before school starts, I should make some friends, so I don't appear as a loner again.
War Against Betaism said:
No, putting it that way means that the "two personalities" are different but on equal levels. Difference between alpha and beta is an alpha is far above the level of a beta.
False. Personalities exist to make us adapt to whatever environment we live in. It's like comparing a bird to a fish. I have adapted to be a beta. I must put myself in another environment, and evolve into an alpha, so that I will be a great leader.
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people wont notice. trust me,
Very good point, thank you.
 

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Vitanoid said:
False. Personalities exist to make us adapt to whatever environment we live in. It's like comparing a bird to a fish. I have adapted to be a beta. I must put myself in another environment, and evolve into an alpha, so that I will be a great leader.
-__- Don't think you're following me here.
 

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no i was talking about being arrogant because you lack social skills hence being a loner... suddenly thinking your all alpha is arrogant (especially if you lack social skills)

at school join some clubs and sh.it be a cool guy to be with

it takes practice (even longer if you lack social skills) to be good at C+F and getting the balance just right, so be very carefull
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Its really actually completely normal, expected even, especially for teenagers. teenagers are SUPPOSED to change. we do it all the time. You're supposed to mature as a teenager, its how you become an adult.
 

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Your delusional if you think your going to pack on a noticable amount of muscle over summer.

As for swinging your arms, thats just pure rediculousness to me. Who gave you this bull**** idea?
 
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