“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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What u think about David D , Mystery etc.

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Hey guys whats up ..
Ive been reading some books and listening some tapes of David DeAngelo , Mystery Method , Neil Strauss , Ross Jeffrie etc .

I really wanna know what you think about these " dating gurus " expesially about David DeAngelo .

thanks have a nice time .
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Read as many books as you like and spend as much money as you like, but the only that will score you women is approaching. Simple as that. Grab your balls and go in head first and learn from your experiences.
 

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It will benefit you a lot clicking link in my signature.. Read in basics, how to learn seduction.
 

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spax said:
Read as many books as you like and spend as much money as you like, but the only that will score you women is approaching. Simple as that. Grab your balls and go in head first and learn from your experiences.
Thanks for advide .

Trust me i got a lot of confidence . Yesterday i approached 4 girls and i felt great . But i read this books mostly for fun . And i wanted to know what u think about them ..


By the way , have anyone read " DOUBLE YOUR DATING " and what u think about it ?
 
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Daddy said:
By the way , have anyone read " DOUBLE YOUR DATING " and what u think about it ?
The first book I read about all this stuff, and the one that started it all for me... I like how what's in there seemed nothing new to me at the time, but the fact that it was concentrated in one single coherent book opened my eyes.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Read everything you can get your paws on because it's good to learn different perspectives and thought processes but please, for Christ's sake:


DO NOT PAY FOR ANY OF THIER "INFORMATION" LEARN TO BORROW IT.

It's so readily available just do some legwork.
 

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They are looking to make money and are constantly putting to new material books. There are useful tips and you'll learn things but no need to buy alot of these books. I've found this forum is more useful IMO. Just constantly read and read threads and try to understand whats written and you'll begin to get it over time.
 

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Of Course :p.. I Always Borrow em from a friend.

Have these books helped alot any of you guys ?..
(im asking a lot of questions cuz i wanna know if these things worth trying and even reading em )
 

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To be honest with you, it's great to read them but from what I have found is that most of those books contain ALOT of crap, and sometimes information mentioned in those books are contradictory to other seduction gurus.

"Double your Dating" as well as "Attraction is not a choice" are probably the two best books from David Deangelo. I'm pretty sure these were the first two books I chose to read in regards to seduction/picking up women.
All his other material is pretty much usless, particularly the DVD's and tapes - don't waste your time on those!
However, I should warn you that some examples of ****y humour that is shown in the book aren't so great, I would look at some examples from this site and other DJ sites.

I would also recommend you reading "The Game" from Style - a great read for sure! It has some useful tips inside of it, it's pretty long, but I found it to be humorous.

But remember, these books are just to get you started off. I have roughly 30-40 e-books from gurus on my computer, I've read about 10 of them.
Most of the information over-laps and once you learn the concepts illustrated in each of those books, you will learn to develop your own style of picking up women.
For example, reading David D's material helped me learn how to create my own ****y+funny lines - I no longer have to rehearse canned material and I am able to apply the concepts I have learned and think of amazing lines on the spot!

Read those 3 books combined with some posts on this forum and you will be more than fine. Most of the other books I have read contained a lot of "filler" material which completely wasted my time.
 

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agree w/ krazyboy99

Each guru runs their own method, which has gotten THEM success because it's congruent with their own personality. You need to figure out what works for YOU though. You can get a feel for different methodologies by looking at different products but there's gonna be a lot that won't work for you and your final style will probably be a combination of bits and pieces, plus original realizations of what you feel works.

First books I ever read were Ross Jefferies, Ron Willis, DYD, and Swingcat's e-book. I don't use any of them at all when I'm macking, at least not consciously
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Mystery
Seems like a cool dude. I give him lots of credit for developing his method and devoting his life to it.

Ross Jeffries
Rofl, he comes off as a complete woman hating insensitive d!ck. I love that guy. He is a character. However his method is too complex and creepy.

David Deangelo
He basically sells the same stuff over and over again and never gets to the point. He has some good inner game advice though. However he is the typical snakes oil salesman.

Juggler
One of my favorites. Can't say anything bad about that guy and I also like his method.

Zan Perrion
Also one of my favorites. I like the way he views women.

Style
I got mad respect for him. I'm also happy that he finally saw the light and stopped playing little games with women.

Ranko Magami (shark) / Badboy
Good guys, although Badboy seems to be in it only for the money and not because he actually wants to help people.


I think those are all the main gurus. I prolly left some out.
 

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I think the majority of what they teach is basic psychology. However, these guru's have basically spun it and called it attraction. I don't think it's necessarily attraction.

If this was true, I would be attracted to nearly every person I've met. For example, all the guru's tell you to play a game or routine where you ask her a question and you make her beg for the answer (with some corny line like "maybe I'll tell you some day"). If that were true i would be falling in love with everyone. There are always times in our lives where someone is being a challenge in some sense....doesn't mean I'm going to fall in love!

It's just our curious selves wanting to know the answer...that's it! Yeah i want to know the answer but it doesnt result in attraction. However, on paper, it sounds like a magic formula. And they have spun it to sound like attraction.
 
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