Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
I have to admit that there was more than a few ****y comebacks that I was impressed with, especially the one about having to buy every girl a drink.
You guys rock!
You guys rock!
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
what to say to a female who ask you to buy her a drink
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Yesterday I made a post that contrasted two different clubs; this plays into that a little also. The type of place you are at and what part of the country/world you are in makes a huge difference in this regard. In the places I like to go for the most part girls wouldn’t pull this ****. I hate stuck up places and that is where this stuff happens more often.
Tourist areas are more prone to this type of thing. I described the 3:1 girl to guy ratio place, I would be surprised if a girl asked me to buy her a drink in there, but I may be willing to get one for her without her having to ask if we are hitting it off, girls really just go there to have fun and wouldn’t think of pulling this crap.
Many bar scenes are very prone to women asking this. I think in that case it comes from the standard male line of “Can I buy you a drink?” Instead it is the women saying in a way, hey I wish this guy would hit on me what should I do to show him I have interest and she may say “Would you like to sit down here and buy me a drink?” In that case, it may not actually be a hustle but just she couldn’t think of a better line. In a case like that I may say something like, how about I sit down and we go from there? Once I size up the convo I may decide to get her one.
The real hustles come in mostly in the clubs this is because there are so many damn guys and a girl can drink free all night long working off of AFC’s.
I recently pulled the stay to the rear and say that I am fine when I was invited to the bar, I already knew she was a straight up professional hustler! She was a little amazed I did that and insisted I come to the bar. After she returned from the bar she asked why I didn’t come up there and that they were going to buy me a drink, I knew better because I had already sized up the situation and was very sure of the deal, these ladies were not even amateurs in fact they may have been highly paid call girls.
When I walked away from them later they seemed a little surprised, but I was not some AFC and they knew it.
SLIKKER_THAN_AVG
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Heres another:
Her" So..will you buy me a drink
You: (Stare at her and shake your head) I know your plan
Her: What are you talking about
You: I know your plan. I Mean really i wasnt born yesterday (do this while chuckling)
Her: No really i dont know what your talking about
You: OH cmon really dont deny it. First you want me to buy you a drink..then you would use that as an excuse to "pay me Back" and later on use me in various sexual ways later in the back alley..I'm ON TO YOU
Her: (if she has a sense of humor she'll laugh)
You: See? I was right..wow you're all the same in here. Next time be more original (give a nod or a wink and be on your way)
If She was eating it up..then your in Like Flynn.
Her" So..will you buy me a drink
You: (Stare at her and shake your head) I know your plan
Her: What are you talking about
You: I know your plan. I Mean really i wasnt born yesterday (do this while chuckling)
Her: No really i dont know what your talking about
You: OH cmon really dont deny it. First you want me to buy you a drink..then you would use that as an excuse to "pay me Back" and later on use me in various sexual ways later in the back alley..I'm ON TO YOU
Her: (if she has a sense of humor she'll laugh)
You: See? I was right..wow you're all the same in here. Next time be more original (give a nod or a wink and be on your way)
If She was eating it up..then your in Like Flynn.
Dee-Zy
Master Don Juan
Originally posted by Oscar Wilde
Happened me recently:
She: "I'll give you a dance if you buy me a drink."
Me: "How about *I* will give *you* a dance if you buy me a drink?"
She: "..."
Me: "Let's just go dance"
She: "Ok!"
Her friends _did not_ like me
Osc.
lol - I like this.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Oscar Wilde
Master Don Juan
The funniest thing, DZ, was the absolutely sky-high interest she had in me. Sure I may as well explain the whole incident...
This happened when I was standing at a bar in a club in Dublin, talking to a guy from NYC. We were talking about travel - he'd been to 41 states of the US, I've been to 26. Anyways he was a cool guy and natural DJ. I tipped him off on some cool places to hang out and he bought me a drink.
This chick was standing behind us and had heard the entire talk, including that I was a programmer working for XYZ Inc.
I don't know how it worked, but when the guy left me to try his own sarge I was standing and finishing this drink. She comes up to me and asks straight out if I'll buy her a drink. I said "No, sorry, I don't do that".
Then she says that she knows that a) I just got a free drink, and b) I'm a professional earning more than her (she's a student). I still said "No, I'm sorry, but it's against my principles" (she was a little annoyed).
Then she used that line I gave earlier - "I'll give you a dance if you buy me a drink". And you know the rest.
The amazing thing was that she demanded my number, and left me a voice-mail the next afternoon (I was spending quality time with the girl I actually picked up the previous night so didn't answer)
Man, I love this site.
Osc.
This happened when I was standing at a bar in a club in Dublin, talking to a guy from NYC. We were talking about travel - he'd been to 41 states of the US, I've been to 26. Anyways he was a cool guy and natural DJ. I tipped him off on some cool places to hang out and he bought me a drink.
This chick was standing behind us and had heard the entire talk, including that I was a programmer working for XYZ Inc.
I don't know how it worked, but when the guy left me to try his own sarge I was standing and finishing this drink. She comes up to me and asks straight out if I'll buy her a drink. I said "No, sorry, I don't do that".
Then she says that she knows that a) I just got a free drink, and b) I'm a professional earning more than her (she's a student). I still said "No, I'm sorry, but it's against my principles" (she was a little annoyed).
Then she used that line I gave earlier - "I'll give you a dance if you buy me a drink". And you know the rest.
The amazing thing was that she demanded my number, and left me a voice-mail the next afternoon (I was spending quality time with the girl I actually picked up the previous night so didn't answer)
Man, I love this site.
Osc.
Eyecandie4ya
Senior Don Juan
How about this one:
Her: Are you going to buy me a drink?
You: But you don't look thirsty!
She should laugh and continue to try.
Last Thursday at a club in Atlanta, a female approach me with that line and I told her to initiate a stimulating conversation and I will buy her the drink.
She stated: "What do want to talk about"?
I started to laugh and told her that she will have to initiate the conversation (it's funny how women get twisted when the roles are reversed). So she started bringing all these sex subjects and struck up the nerve to ask me do I eat p****.
Me: Nope, I just stop yesterday
She laughed and didn't know what else to say so she started grinding on me but she still didn't get the drink. HAHAHAHAH!
Her: Are you going to buy me a drink?
You: But you don't look thirsty!
She should laugh and continue to try.
Last Thursday at a club in Atlanta, a female approach me with that line and I told her to initiate a stimulating conversation and I will buy her the drink.
She stated: "What do want to talk about"?
I started to laugh and told her that she will have to initiate the conversation (it's funny how women get twisted when the roles are reversed). So she started bringing all these sex subjects and struck up the nerve to ask me do I eat p****.
Me: Nope, I just stop yesterday
She laughed and didn't know what else to say so she started grinding on me but she still didn't get the drink. HAHAHAHAH!
Oscar Wilde
Master Don Juan
Oh yeah, eyecandie, you just reminded me: "Maybe" is a very useful word, particularly combined with "if". Especially in that conversation one, cos then you don't have to put up with her saying "well you agreed to if I bleh"...
Eyecandie4ya
Senior Don Juan
I will make sure to include "maybe". But I did use "if".
See Oscar, you weren't the only one able to
pull a dance out of it
Appreciate the advice!
See Oscar, you weren't the only one able to
pull a dance out of it
Appreciate the advice!
Dee-Zy
Master Don Juan
Originally posted by Eyecandie4ya
How about this one:
Her: Are you going to buy me a drink?
You: But you don't look thirsty!
She should laugh and continue to try.
Last Thursday at a club in Atlanta, a female approach me with that line and I told her to initiate a stimulating conversation and I will buy her the drink.
She stated: "What do want to talk about"?
I started to laugh and told her that she will have to initiate the conversation (it's funny how women get twisted when the roles are reversed). So she started bringing all these sex subjects and struck up the nerve to ask me do I eat p****.
Me: Nope, I just stop yesterday
She laughed and didn't know what else to say so she started grinding on me but she still didn't get the drink. HAHAHAHAH!
God - what an airhead. Stimulating conversation N she talks about sex???
*shakes head*
shame ... shame ... shame ...
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Dee-Zy
Master Don Juan
Originally posted by Oscar Wilde
The funniest thing, DZ, was the absolutely sky-high interest she had in me. Sure I may as well explain the whole incident...
This happened when I was standing at a bar in a club in Dublin, talking to a guy from NYC. We were talking about travel - he'd been to 41 states of the US, I've been to 26. Anyways he was a cool guy and natural DJ. I tipped him off on some cool places to hang out and he bought me a drink.
This chick was standing behind us and had heard the entire talk, including that I was a programmer working for XYZ Inc.
I don't know how it worked, but when the guy left me to try his own sarge I was standing and finishing this drink. She comes up to me and asks straight out if I'll buy her a drink. I said "No, sorry, I don't do that".
Then she says that she knows that a) I just got a free drink, and b) I'm a professional earning more than her (she's a student). I still said "No, I'm sorry, but it's against my principles" (she was a little annoyed).
Then she used that line I gave earlier - "I'll give you a dance if you buy me a drink". And you know the rest.
The amazing thing was that she demanded my number, and left me a voice-mail the next afternoon (I was spending quality time with the girl I actually picked up the previous night so didn't answer)
Man, I love this site.
Osc.
Ionno - I'll keep this in mind for the next time it happends but ... I'm more the type like. Sure you are attractive and all but - you just ... don't dance well enough.
Eyecandie4ya
Senior Don Juan
I know! I know! It is a shame because women feel that's all we think about so that what we want to hear coming out of their mouths (if we're trying to bone her).
Ser_i
Don Juan
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this bloody hot slutt-ish dressed girl one of the horniest in my little town I live in.
at the local club, she starts suddenly to give me more attention and all after some time she pulls me on to the dance floor. we dance for a bit, but I just step away saying: I'm not attracted to her cause I don't know her. she sais: well you can buy me a drink and get to know me better if you like. at that point on arm of her is at her hip. the other is on my chest and she's looking in my eyes. I took one step back, took out my wallet, and gave her a 10 cent coin.. "here, go beg to another 20 guys, and they all will get to know you" was one of my roughest things I ever said to a girl,
at present, she gives me the occasional "hello" with a sound behind it like. I realy hate you, but you turned me down! I can't believe it!
meh.. never ever buy a girl a drink in a bar or she's your girlfriend and then only if she buys you one first
this bloody hot slutt-ish dressed girl one of the horniest in my little town I live in.
at the local club, she starts suddenly to give me more attention and all after some time she pulls me on to the dance floor. we dance for a bit, but I just step away saying: I'm not attracted to her cause I don't know her. she sais: well you can buy me a drink and get to know me better if you like. at that point on arm of her is at her hip. the other is on my chest and she's looking in my eyes. I took one step back, took out my wallet, and gave her a 10 cent coin.. "here, go beg to another 20 guys, and they all will get to know you
" was one of my roughest things I ever said to a girl, at present, she gives me the occasional "hello" with a sound behind it like. I realy hate you, but you turned me down! I can't believe it!
meh.. never ever buy a girl a drink in a bar or she's your girlfriend and then only if she buys you one first
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
SLIKKER_THAN_AVG
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LMAO
princelydeeds
Master Don Juan
I don't get it, that is AFC because?
duke007
Master Don Juan
I asked a few women about the "asking for a drink" question online on a special website where girls ask guys questions and vice versa.
I provided several C+F responses to the question and asked what they thought (ie would it offend/pique your interest in me?)
I was pleased to see that two women found them very funny and suave and wished there were more guys like me.
However, a few others couldn't understand why I'd want to do this. They thought if I like her I should just buy the drink etc. This was possibly because they were not the type to ask this type of question and/or they had no idea about the psychology of attraction. (Two were in the 36-44 age range)
A couple of others admitted it might work but most of them may make me sound cheap, or indicate I have a chip on my shoulder. Interesting....
I suppose it's all in the delivery.
And finally, I know women give the worst advice, but anonymously with a direct question such as this may not be so bad.
I provided several C+F responses to the question and asked what they thought (ie would it offend/pique your interest in me?)
I was pleased to see that two women found them very funny and suave and wished there were more guys like me.
However, a few others couldn't understand why I'd want to do this. They thought if I like her I should just buy the drink etc. This was possibly because they were not the type to ask this type of question and/or they had no idea about the psychology of attraction. (Two were in the 36-44 age range)
A couple of others admitted it might work but most of them may make me sound cheap, or indicate I have a chip on my shoulder. Interesting....
I suppose it's all in the delivery.
And finally, I know women give the worst advice, but anonymously with a direct question such as this may not be so bad.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.