So I ask a girl out through the phone and the next thing you know a "friend" has to come along or else she can't go because her parents said something like that. So what do I do in this situation? Should I call it off because her parents will probably just get in the way later, or should i Just go with her and the friend?
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Go along with it. I mean, if she wants people there, bring one of your friends and have him bring a girl, make it kinda like a double date thing. Bowling, golf, or any other kinda action date is always good. Even as a double date. I mean, I wouldn't necessarily consider just having one other person with you. It might become kinda awkward. Being a third wheel is never fun :/
I don't know who her friend is and I've never even seen her, that's the problem, so I can't really set up a "double date". Even if I'd bring a friend, I'd imagine it would be kinda awkward because it wouldn't really even be a double-date. Just me and her, and our friends just being there. And if her friend comes along every damn time, then there'd be no room for the private stuff, if you know what I mean.
The reason why I'm asking, is because I don't know if this is gonna go anywhere, because her parents obviously don't approve of "relationships" and as I said before, that could be a problem later on. She doesn't want other people there, but her overprotective parents do. So I was wondering if I should just save myself the trouble and call it off."Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
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Well, if you want to get away with some **** with this chick, just have her bring a cool freind that wouldn't mind turning her back to you a little
Maybe set up some sorta hangout and meet ppl thing so you can meet her freind, and if she is a babe, you can do a freind a favor and hook him up with her. That way odds are they will be too busy to notice anything happening with you.
Or if you think that's too much trouble, and would rather just next it and go for another babe, go right ahead.
Maybe set up some sorta hangout and meet ppl thing so you can meet her freind, and if she is a babe, you can do a freind a favor and hook him up with her. That way odds are they will be too busy to notice anything happening with you.
Or if you think that's too much trouble, and would rather just next it and go for another babe, go right ahead.
B-Lemond
Master Don Juan
Just tell her that she seems like too much trouble and hard work and that your "Romeo and Juliet" affair wouldn't work out unless things change. She'll probably have a talk with her parents, a little bit of yelling, (an investment she has made in you), and things MIGHT change so you and her could "hang out" by yourselves....wink wink.
Man I know a girl like this too...I just dont understand why a girl cant bs her parents and say that shes going to hang out with her friend when really shes hanging out with her boyfriend. There so many ways to get away with it.
Man why'd you call it off? Because you didn't think you could score because her parents don't approve of relationships. Well who said you needed a relationship to hook up anyway and if you need to go on a double date bring a really loyal friend who is really good at his game. This is so that he won't try to hook up with your girl but he will keep her friend interested. Anyway I wouldn't look for a relationship but rather hooking up. So basically just go back out to bowling with her and then get your friend to go with hre friend and vice versa.
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You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Can't go without a friend? Because her PARENTS said so?
Bro, she doesn't want you trying anything on her, that's all. Interest level : 0.
All this parents mumbo jumbo. Honestly, you guys need to fix your bull sh!t radars.
Bro, she doesn't want you trying anything on her, that's all. Interest level : 0.
All this parents mumbo jumbo. Honestly, you guys need to fix your bull sh!t radars.
isotope
Senior Don Juan
who cares? what, do you expect to get laid on the first date?
i see no reason not to let the friend come but obviously you are only interested in sex, so yeah you should move on and find some slvyt
i see no reason not to let the friend come but obviously you are only interested in sex, so yeah you should move on and find some slvyt
I was somewhat thinking that too, but a lot of parents are overprotective when their kids are in high school.
And no I'm not interested in solely getting laid, but I took some advice from a friend where the same thing happened to him. One time he came home late with a date and her parents yelled at him and got all pissy. Heck her parents even visited his parent's house to make sure they were "okay" people. I just don't want her parents getting anal on me, that's all. As I said before, I know how overprotective parents can get. And I also wouldn't like it if her friend was there ALL the time. :/
I know the girl I know isnt bullshtting me cuz i know all the other guys she hangs with and shes told them the same thing. (shes an attention *****) But the reason it wouldnt be good for her to bring a friend on the date because it shuts off all opportunities for any kind of connection other than "the just firends connection" Since she will just look at it as hanging with a bunch of her friends.
Back when I was a full fledged AFC I was in a relationship like that.
Don't bother.
In my case she brought along two of her friends and just told her parents she was going out with the girls, never mentioning me because she wasn't allowed to go out even in a group with guys. (She was 16 bordering on 17, it was ridiculous)
In my case the 3rd and 4th wheels were really chatty and ended up not shutting up and basically kept me from ever really getting a chance to talk to her for more then a few seconds before they butted in.
It was a horrible experience.
Here's how I see it. Best case scenario you get her friend to ditch you and hook up in the back of a car somewhere or something. Chances are this isn't going to be happening though. There can hardly be any serious relationship potential here if you can never be alone with each other and need to get a 3rd wheel to come along whenever you see each other.
Don't bother.
In my case she brought along two of her friends and just told her parents she was going out with the girls, never mentioning me because she wasn't allowed to go out even in a group with guys. (She was 16 bordering on 17, it was ridiculous)
In my case the 3rd and 4th wheels were really chatty and ended up not shutting up and basically kept me from ever really getting a chance to talk to her for more then a few seconds before they butted in.
It was a horrible experience.
Here's how I see it. Best case scenario you get her friend to ditch you and hook up in the back of a car somewhere or something. Chances are this isn't going to be happening though. There can hardly be any serious relationship potential here if you can never be alone with each other and need to get a 3rd wheel to come along whenever you see each other.
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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I'm thinking go for it, get yourself a decent wingman to stlal the other girl, hey maybe they like each other too.
Then you can owe the dude a favour.
And next time, if she brings a freind, tell the girl you were taking out to dump her at some point, so you can have some time alone, if the first date went well.
Then you can owe the dude a favour.
And next time, if she brings a freind, tell the girl you were taking out to dump her at some point, so you can have some time alone, if the first date went well.