"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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triplekaioken

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What's best to do when the girl you made out with a few months ago and who kinda liked you (didnt see each other for a while cuz i done some travelling) and who was abit flakey when trying to meet her. she is bad at responding to messages but after 3 weeks of sending my last message she just randomly messages me saying hello.

should i just ignore or go in and banter with her?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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TheException

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triplekaioken said:
she just randomly messages me saying hello.

should i just ignore or go in and banter with her?
You DONT banter.....men dont "banter".

Try to set up a date. When a women does this random messaging its one of two things.

1.) Her curiosity is peaked, you havent talked to her in awhile, and she is interested.

2.) She's an attention wh0re checking to make sure you are still her loyal beta buddy.

How do you find out which it is? Send 1 or 2 messages just checking to see whats shes been up to....then ask "what days are you free this week to hangout?". Her response will let you know which number she is.....if shes interested, pick a day and make plans. If she gives a wishy washy answer then shes number two, and Id suggest not responding any further.
 

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TheException said:
You DONT banter.....men dont "banter".

Try to set up a date. When a women does this random messaging its one of two things.

1.) Her curiosity is peaked, you havent talked to her in awhile, and she is interested.

2.) She's an attention wh0re checking to make sure you are still her loyal beta buddy.

How do you find out which it is? Send 1 or 2 messages just checking to see whats shes been up to....then ask "what days are you free this week to hangout?". Her response will let you know which number she is.....if shes interested, pick a day and make plans. If she gives a wishy washy answer then shes number two, and Id suggest not responding any further.

i thought it's good to tease women and make fun of them in a joking way?
 

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triplekaioken said:
i thought it's good to tease women and make fun of them in a joking way?
It is....but its better done in person. I just meant you shouldnt be doing this on the phone. The phone is for getting her out in person. Then you can tease her all you want.
 

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TheException said:
It is....but its better done in person. I just meant you shouldnt be doing this on the phone. The phone is for getting her out in person. Then you can tease her all you want.
awesome.

lets say, because she didnt respond to me for like 3 weeks and then suddenly messages me, if i do ignore her for a long time do you think it could do me any favors? like do you think it could get to the point where she's going to start chasing me and gaining more interest? she was proper into me and we hooked up and i havent really shown her my hand yet, she is just bad with replying! 1 minute she replies all the time, next minute takes her a day, then 3 weeks! so i have never really gotten to the point of talking to her properly.

you're advice makes sense but because she was so bad at responding to me, i don't think it's right for me to just reply instantly you know? doesnt that make me sound too 'yay she replied to me omg!'?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Wait a day
reply "Yoo" or whatever it is of the sort you say
If she responds, set up a date.
Tell her " I'm doing such and such, your welcome to join me"
If she flakes you turn into casper
 

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triplekaioken said:
you're advice makes sense but because she was so bad at responding to me, i don't think it's right for me to just reply instantly you know? doesnt that make me sound too 'yay she replied to me omg!'?
I hear what you're saying...but that doesnt matter. If you wait to text on purpose, I just find that pathetic. Women shouldnt be that big a deal to you. I personally dont like being "sneaky" or "doing things to get back at women"....im not into playing these types of games. You only would come off like you say if you act that way.

Its really up to you, but there is nothing wrong with replying today "Hey whats going on?"
 
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