"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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What to do?

Eph

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Long story short: How can I get a girl that is already comfortable with me (I know her sexually inside and out and can talk to her about anything), I've known for 4 years, asked out (rejected), and always has an excuse not to, to hang out with me?

I've known this girl since 6th grade and we're both about to be Sophomores this year. Well, right before 9th grade I asked her out (no date, as in be my girlfriend. mistake i know). She told me we don't see each other so it wouldn't work out. I didn't overreact, and got the conversation to end pretty well with a few laughs and a "you made me feel special". Eventually she had me give her my number. Now we talk every week BUT its because of me.

I always text her first, (which from what I can see is because we don't hang out so I haven't really given her anyway to text me about) but it seems like I can literally talk to her about anything. I know her sexually in and out due to a text game of 20 questions. So I assume she's comfortable with me.

Most of last year (9th grade) it felt wrong to think about her in a sexual way because I always felt like she was the one for me and I shouldn't think of her the same way I think of other girls, but after our game of 20 questions I have no problem thinking about her sexually. Anyway, I've been trying to get her to hang out with me but she always has an excuse not to (reading, "you wouldn't last a day with me", already have plans with friends, etc).

It also seems like any of the rare times I am with her I can touch her anywhere (except butt, tits, *****) without any problems.
To sum this up, how can I get her to hang with me so I can kino and escalate, etc? Which I think is the source of my problems.
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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alxrose04

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My friend, first off, do not feel ashamed about thinking of her sexually because girls do the exact same thing! Plus it's natural and there's nothing wrong with it. Any girl that says different is either lying or a lesbian. haha

I understand that you really like this girl but have you thought about talking to other girls? When you have other girls in your life and she finds out about it, she'll start to see you in a different light. She will start to think that other girls find you sexy, and that she should find out what all the hype is about.

I'm an optimist and according to your story, she hasn't said no so that's good news. You may be coming off as a touch desperate, so that's why talking to to other girls will show her that you have your pick of the litter. To get her to hang out with you, why don't you try to organize something with mutual friends and invite her along. Then there, you can show her how you're in demand (because you're the organizer).

And keep it all playful. That's very important. If she says no, treat it as a joke and keep flirting with her in a playful way. She says "You won't last a day with me." You say "Right....sure. What makes you so special missy?" Then she will start qualifying herself to you, investing in the conversation and BOOM! You're in a position to decided whether or not what she said was impressive or not, instantly turning the tables and making YOU the SELECTOR!!

(That's some evil genius stuff right there! Haha)
 

LearningSlowly

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No real chance. The only reason you care about this girl is because she is the only one on your plate. Stop trying with her.
 

Bwilled

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either stop trying (which you wont) or dont be so clingy bro text her every once in a while make jokes try to keep it as sexual as possible with out being to blunt with it dont make it to obvious you like her. start to dwindle it down. girls usauly hate it when a guy stops liking them (if u had a shot or she conciderd you) get some other girls on your plate constintly text when ur around her let her know "Bxtch you not special i got others on my **** step aside" and usually she'll find time to spend with you...and if this doesnt work im either an idiot or u had no shot
 

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Thanks guys. Kinda have moved on, still think about her frequently but text her a lot less now. And I do have a some other chicks "on my plate", but at the moment can't get anymore since school's out for the summer and I have a "rule" against gaming chicks I see anywhere else in case they happen to be older (18+) unless I know they're around my age.

But the thing is a few weeks ago while we were texting she invited me to her place for a sandwich before school starts (as in before classes start; not before summer break is over) so I've been wondering if I should go or not. Is she just playing games or is there some interest or what?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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P stranger

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Lol son, and what kind of game is that if i might ask?

She just wants to spend time on you i guess, i don't see a problem in you eating a sandwich with her. Only thing you'll find is a nice conversation:D!

And if she sees that you don't spend as much time on her as you usually do.. She'll come to GET your time, oh wait she's already doing that by inviting you over:D!

-p
 
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