"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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What to do with crazy quasi-ex that I still want, has LJBF'd me

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Ok, so this situation is all levels of ****ed up.

So I met a girl in November of last year. We got along great, but despite the fact that she kept dropping hints for MONTHS, and we ****ed several times, I didn't date her because, well, I don't date girls.

Well, she started hanging out with a new guy, who is pretty much meh in every way (10 years old than me, works part time at Target, pretty much the most passive person on the planet, if I steal his girl from him, he'd just be like "aww, well that sucks")

I got awkward, and jealous, but still couldn't admit to myself I actually cared about her until he'd been hanging around with her for like a month - like I still talked to other girls, but hadn't ****ed any girls since I'd been hanging out with this girl.

Finally I realized, told her, and she initially rejected me, gave me the LJBFs talk. I pretty much told her I was going to cut her off, at least somewhat because that's what happens when a girl isn't with you.

She immediately reacted a couple days later like she hadn't rejected me, flirted with me, etc. I was on the track to completely pushing new guy out, until I got drunk and told her I loved her (she made my drink REALLY REALLY powerful), which I didn't.

She got immediately cold, told me she wasn't interested in me, etc. We still hung out occasionally, and I didn't (even though I should have) cut her out.

Well, we went camping together about a month later, she started to get all cuddly and friendly with me again, and told me she needed a "smart guy to date" while stroking my hair. I didn't take this opportunity because I *****ed out, something I seemingly did a lot after new guy showed up.

Anyway, after a week of trying to get my attention back, she started hanging around with loser guy again, told me she was basically dating him (which awkwarded me out - thinking back I think it was a test). I got drunk and acted stupid awkward again. She once again gave me the LJBF speech, told me to think of her like a sister. At this point she hadn't ****ed me in a few months.

I was emo for like a week and a half, and then had an epiphany - I had been acting pretty much like a ***** for a significant portion of the time she and I had been hanging out - because I actually genuinely liked her and wouldn't admit (like, I find it easy to get girls to **** me, can't tell a girl I actually care about her, even after I basically admitted it in basically June).

Right before my epiphany, she had me come to a party, and begged me to stay for like 3 days. She kept going on about how I was so cold and ignoring her. She texted me like 6 times to get me over to her house.

At the party, her new guy was there, and I invited a girl (I can get a ready stream of girls). She kept embarrassing me in front of the girl, and bit my hand until I yelped when I cuddled with and made out with her.

The next weekend, after my epiphany, again with her bf there, she bit my face, arms, back, gave me a hickey, jumped on me in her bed and said she knew how much I wanted to **** her, and then specifically gave her bf a bj in front of me, to make me jealous. I drunkenly slapped her in a quasi-playful way (not hard, but in a "I'm not your ***** and this was inappropriate"), she slapped me back, and gave me the most evil, satisfied grin ever. She also gave the same grin to me right before I left. We said no words, but she knew she got to me.

Since that day, I haven't hung out with her at all (it's been three weeks), because she has kept inviting me to hang out with her and her bf. She has been incessantly talking to me - she skypes or facebook chats me everyday, she calls me frequently saying she's bored (while he's there), leaves messages on my phone calling me a bastard in a friendly way, calls me a "scaredy-cat" for not hanging out with her friend, etc.

She has few friends, but I have intentionally made myself busy - I think she may still think I am emo over the situation, and I do sorta want her still (even after the damn bj). She tried to get me to go to PF Changs with her and her BF last night! I told her no, we'd made plans for Thursday (we're going to Canada, alone for the evening - not staying over) and she would see me Thursday. She then continued to ask twice more, over Skype, texts and even called me (when I was at work).

Now, besides the fact that this girl is super crazy (and I sorta like crazy, in a self-destructive/adventure way, the same thing that makes me drive 70 miles into Mexico at 100 MPH), is she showing interest, or is she just ****ing with me? Because I've got like 3 other girls asking for my attention right now (though none are as hot as she is)
 

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Ok then, I'll pretty much do what I've been doing then, go with other girls.

I was just wondering because she'd LJBF'd me before and then basically thrown herself in my lap.
 

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I've been not hanging out with her for about 3 weeks, haven't completely cut off contact, haven't contacted her at all, have ignored her calls, made plans for this Thursday, she wants to hang out Friday (a VIP "pre-party" to her party on saturday) but I am going over to another girl's place that night to watch tv.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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She just said I have been a total douchebag and avoiding my friend (i.e. her.)
 

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Seriously, block her on facebook, block her phone number. **** that bi-atch!
 

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She was doing it to get attention. I don't mind - I actually enjoy challenges. She's a total ***** to me, probably because I rejected her for 4-5 months and then showed interest the second she started hanging with another guy.
 

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So you want a girl who sucked a guy off in front of you?

Your scrotum rang, it wants its testicles back!


For the sake of your masculinity, stop communicating with this girl and move the hell on! She's playing you like a complete pvssy!
 

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Agreed! "For the sake of your masculinity, stop communicating with this girl and move the hell on! She's playing you like a complete pvssy!"
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Read title, NC, save yourself the embarrassment and pain.

And NO MATTER WHAT this chick says or does, you must never ever contact her again, be cordial when you cross paths but offer nothing more than a smile, nod or wave.

EDIT: read the story, still say NC and I suggest you google the term cuckold, because that is where you are heading.
 

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Oh I'll **** another girl in front of her if she tries to do anything else while in my presence. The weekend she did this was the weekend an ugly girl was all over me, and the prior weekend I'd had another girl making out with me on her couch.
 

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Pikeman85 said:
The next weekend, after my epiphany, again with her bf there, she bit my face, arms, back, gave me a hickey, jumped on me in her bed and said she knew how much I wanted to **** her, and then specifically gave her bf a bj in front of me, to make me jealous. I drunkenly slapped her in a quasi-playful way (not hard, but in a "I'm not your ***** and this was inappropriate"), she slapped me back, and gave me the most evil, satisfied grin ever. She also gave the same grin to me right before I left. We said no words, but she knew she got to me.
Sounds like a keeper.
 

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DonJuan_DeRosco said:
So you want a girl who sucked a guy off in front of you?

Your scrotum rang, it wants its testicles back!
LMAO

Now that's funny! :yes:


Cheers!
 

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When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

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Pikeman85 said:
Ok, so this situation is all levels of ****ed up.

The next weekend, after my epiphany, again with her bf there, she bit my face, arms, back, gave me a hickey, jumped on me in her bed and said she knew how much I wanted to **** her, and then specifically gave her bf a bj in front of me, to make me jealous. I drunkenly slapped her in a quasi-playful way (not hard, but in a "I'm not your ***** and this was inappropriate"), she slapped me back, and gave me the most evil, satisfied grin ever. She also gave the same grin to me right before I left. We said no words, but she knew she got to me.
Where do you meet these people? And why are you still interested in this woman? She is clearly mental and playing games. This guy is weird too. Would you want to get a ******* in front of some other guy?
 

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I like to play games too. The guy is the most passive person ever. She's told him he's only her **** toy until she leaves the state, and he's sad about it, because he's all into getting into a real relationship. I told her he needed to control her, he said it was too much effort.

I see her as just a huge challenge, basically. Getting girls and getting laid isn't difficult for me. I've got about a 50-50 chance of getting laid on Friday. Basically I like a girl that plays games, because it's a challenge to me to play games back at them. My goal isn't to have a simpering woman who'll do what I tell her to do. (I want it difficult to control her, because then I feel more awesome when I do so)
 

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Pikeman85 said:
I like to play games too. The guy is the most passive person ever. She's told him he's only her **** toy until she leaves the state, and he's sad about it, because he's all into getting into a real relationship. I told her he needed to control her, he said it was too much effort.

I see her as just a huge challenge, basically. Getting girls and getting laid isn't difficult for me. I've got about a 50-50 chance of getting laid on Friday. Basically I like a girl that plays games, because it's a challenge to me to play games back at them. My goal isn't to have a simpering woman who'll do what I tell her to do. (I want it difficult to control her, because then I feel more awesome when I do so)
But you want some scuzzbucket who blows other guys in front of you? Dude, what the f*ck?
 

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Pikeman85 said:
I like slutty girls. It's a thing.
But there's consequences as you're observing right now. You're not going to get much advice from people since you've got a special situation here.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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