"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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What to do?/When do you know?

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Theres this girls I kinda like, she was all over me for a bit and I went to slow so I got stuck in the "friend zone" although it would be a short saty, maybe 2 months. So I'm like thats fine, so be it, and started doing my own thing more and more. Now I haven't talked to her since last thursday, and before that it was a few days. We used to talk all the time and she always had time for me if I wanted to do something, and if I called her she probably still would. When she has used the word friend I told her straight out thats a BS word and I don't want to hear it. I said she could use "Nend" which means Non-friend. Yes kinda corny but it stopped the crap for awhile. So the last time I seen her in person she said something like "Think of me as one of your guy friends" which I told her why the 2 aren't the same using specific examples pertaining to her. Anyway so i figured screw it and started hunting around for her replacement. I have a couple of friends with special priv. :) which helps.

Now in retrospect especially after today she doesn't look as good, went from an 8 to a 5 or 6 in my mind. Especially after work today. I go to multiple medium sized companies and do there computers/networking. This New employee is just friggin' smokin' hot. At least a 9.0 and I never give anything a 10. Not to mention when I was talking with her and one of the "bosses there" I noticed everytime I'd shift a position she would mimick it. Not to mention a lot of hair play and sucking up. It was beautiful. ***Any advice on this first would be appreciated, trying to figure out how to take it to another level, I will be back there next monday.

So back to the other girl, She ends up getting back with her old BF. The patterns the same according to her friends and her, (She is in somewhat of the same social circle) He comes back for a couple of months, F'S her, moches off her, and then moves out. Her friends all hate him and give her a ton of crap. And everytime he comes back the time gets shorter. I kind of understand they dated for more then 10 years, but thats not my prob. This was 4 days ago.

She called my cell yesterday and I was to busy to answer and didn't call back. Today while playing poker online I exited a table signup right away, but she happened to be in it. I didn't think much of it just wanted to play a large tournament, not a single table. She was probably like WTF and calls again about 1 1/2 hours later. I was tired from lack of sleep and was sleeping so didn't answer again, nor call her back. I realized that I am playing ganji games without trying. My question is when do you know when to re-initiate contact? I wouldn't mind seeing if I could sleep with her, and she would make a good women if I wanted to settle down. I have other options though, but I don't know when to say when on the no contact. I might as well keep on doing it I figure and see what happens. Any help on these 2 items would be appreciated.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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For the girl who is basicly just a "friend". I don't see anything wrong with having girls as friends. Only, if your not trying to pursue them. But, you said she was all over you at one point. So, what is the status now? Do you have interest in her or just friends?

For the hot babe you met recently. Just play the game with her. By that, I mean talk to her. Get a convo going then, go in for the number.
 

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The status currently is she is on "Ignore". I am still somewhat interested, in her, but it's not the end of the world. I have a limit to my patience and when it's reached I have the ability to say scr3w it. She is the type that would be a good LTR though, which I wouldn't mind doing again, it's been awhile. The wierd thing is she actually told me a couple/few weeks ago she kinda considers me her BF, she was jelous over me hanging with one of her/my female friends. Who I don't really have any interest in unless I'm really bored or horny. I was like "Huh, if thats the case I'm going to break up with you cause the sex is horrible". I haven't had sex with her or anything, and I figured I was on the fastlane to friendzone land, hence where I'm at now ignoring her. I just don't know how long I should go for, or what signs to look for. She is only at the calling stage but isn't leaving any desperate messages or anything right now.
 

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Well, you can ignore her calls and move on in your life. Cause, after awhile of keeping busy, doing things, and meeting other girls... Your mind will be off her. You could answer her calls or call her back just to see what she wants.
 

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Yeah I kinda was thinking of the same. Minus the friend, since I'll be downtown, and while I work for a company I work alone. I already did neg her a little. The first day she was dressed in this super conservative dress. She didn't really look all that great, Plus it didn't help that the owner yelled at her on day one. Ouch. Although right after I gave her an escape route. Somewhat knight in shining armor, but then ignored her the rest of the day. It was her second day she was dressed in some sexy ass clothes. Thats the only bad part though (Not the clothes), she will only be on her second week. So I want to get her out without worry other then how much I may like her. I have an idea, and got to admit it's fun, not to mention I don't care too much. A lot more fun then wondering about the other chick but I like to keep my options open especially when it isn't taking any time. Other then the short bit to write that last sentence and this one too. :)

But Mondays a long ways away I still got the weekend wish me a good fvck errrr. good luck!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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