"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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What to do next? How can I convert this to an LTR?

pr3167

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I've known this girl for a few months now, and recently our conversations have been very flirty and she's shown a a lot of IOI's (we're both 18, seniors in high school). Last night, I went over to her house to watch a movie, which was our second time hanging out alone. Her parents went out to dinner, and her little brother was in the basement with some of his friends, so we watched the movie in the living room. Occasionally, her brother and dog would come and ****block, but I was still able to escalate. We didn't have sex, but we ended up making out for a good 30 minutes on her couch, mostly with me on top of her. After this, we sat and talked for 20 minutes with her lying on me and my arm around her. Then, her parents came home, and I left 10 minutes later after kissing her goodbye.

I’m relatively new to pickup, so my question is how can I turn this into an LTR? I don’t see her often in school besides the occasional pass-by in the hallway, so most of my contact with her comes from texting and hanging out on the weekends (we have mutual friends that we usually hang with every weekend, that’s how we started talking). I’m considering texting her saying good luck for her dance recital later today, but I feel it could be too soon and come across as needy. If I don’t text her, I might not see her in school to talk. I already have a little bit of a player/douche reputation in my school, I don’t want her to think that I just used her to hook up.

I’ll definitely text her on Wednesday or Thursday to make weekend plans, but how should I talk to her sooner so I don’t come across as either too needy or too much of an *******? I think I’ve done a good job keeping my frame and getting her very interested in me, but I would like to turn it into an LTR as I do really enjoy spending time with her.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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sylvester the cat

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By asking this question you're already fighting an uphill battle as this is a question the girl really should be asking.

Let her think you used her for a hook up. It's probably the best card you have in this particular game.
 

LMFAO

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Call her up, go back to her place and escalate further. If she says her parents are away or something take the hint and just say "I'm coming over" (in the wise words of Mystery).

You're no where with her to even consider LTR (or even a fvck buddy relationship). But here's the simple guideline:
1. Have sex with her.
2. Keep having sex with her once a week. Spin other plates so you don't come across too needy and have backup plans.
3. Start spending some time with her outside sex.
4. If all goes well, wait for an exclusive talk from her after 2-3 months.
 
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