"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

what to do if your convo is going bad?

void957

Don Juan
Joined
Oct 3, 2014
Messages
67
Reaction score
5
Location
England
lets say you plucked up the courage to talk to girl, approached her and the convo is very onesided as youre asking a lot of questions because she wont really respond. Obviously ill try to observe and make comments etc but what if shes not responding well? u have to keep using follow questions and the convo is just full of awkard silences.

i mean u can walk away but what was the point of approaching plus it looks weird just approaching havin **** convo then just leave in the middle.


i was thinking of a number close ?



let me know
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

Read more...

Between_The_Lines

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 2, 2014
Messages
606
Reaction score
49
Location
Miami
On the path to success with girls you'll find along the way becoming completely comfortable with awkward situations/silences as a necessary stepping stone.
 

MOTU

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 29, 2014
Messages
638
Reaction score
72
Location
Houston, TX
What Between The Lines said, and: shift the mood. Make fun of her, tickle her, do something unexpected. Saturday night I was chatting up this chick and it got a little stale so I literally picked her up (still sitting on her stool) and moved her to my table. She loved it and it totally reset the scene. It also showed my strength and dominance. I didn't bone her beacause she had bad teeth, but I could have.
 

TheCWord

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 10, 2013
Messages
873
Reaction score
63
Hi void. Sounds like we need to do some rewiring in your head, because when you should be thinking walk away you're going in the complete opposite direction and thinking number close. Ho boy. My responses in bold....

void957 said:
lets say you plucked up the courage to talk to girl,

Way to go!

approached her and the convo is very onesided as youre asking a lot of questions because she wont really respond.

She's not interested. Moving on.

Obviously ill try to observe and make comments etc but what if shes not responding well?

Not interested.

u have to keep using follow questions and the convo is just full of awkard silences.

Should've walked away by now.

i mean u can walk away

Sounds like you have some instinct on the right thing to do...

but what was the point of approaching

Because you were interested and knew the only way to find out if she'd also be interested is if you talk to her.


plus it looks weird just approaching havin **** convo then just leave in the middle.

Who? Who says it's weird? Has anyone told you it's weird? Listen, this girl knows why you started chatting her up. If you leave in the middle it will just indicate you were intuitive enough to know nothing was going on there. It would be weirder to stick around when this girl was giving signs that she's not interested in conversation.

i was thinking of a number close ?

You number close when a girl is showing some signs of interest. In this case, she was showing zero signs of interest.

let me know
I think what's happening here is you're still building up your confidence and you don't approach girls regularly. So when you finally do approach them (again, good on ya, keep it up) it seems so important because it's such a rare event. You put the approach and the girl up on a pedestal. You feel you need to get the number, she needs to be interested, or else you failed.

Hey man, you find approaching women thrilling. Who doesn't? I'd encourage you to find the thrill in WALKING AWAY. I love walking away. It makes me feel more confident. It's me saying that this interaction is not rewarding to me, so I'm no longer going to take part in it. That's empowering. And that carries over to the next girl you talk to. Once you start only dedicating your energy to high interest girls and walking away from the low interest, your confidence will snowball. I promise you.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

Read more...

VladPatton

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 26, 2012
Messages
3,246
Reaction score
232
Location
NYC
She isn't feeling you, you're bothering her, is non receptive to your pick up attempt, so in this case you bounce. You will get this very often when approaching strange girls.
 
Top