"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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What the hell!?

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Right now I'm conmpletely baffled. Help me my brothers!

I have this mate and heys a great guy and all but he is the biggest AFC youve ever seen! Every second of his life is devoted to thinking about this one girl. He messaged her saying "I really really like you", right? And she replied "I think i need to know you more".

I thought this was an excuse. But he persisted. He told all of her friends that liked her and they tried to set him up. So anyway he gets her alone completely nervous and shy and tells her how much he likes her. After all her friends were telling her 'get with him, get with him'. They were supposed to kiss but it just didnt happen.

So anyway he keeps messaging her saying "I've never liked anyone this much before, is there any slight chance that we may possibly ever have the small chance of getting together".

The worst thing is now they are supposedly getting together in the holidays!

WHAT THE FKUCK!!!?

This is the biggest afc behaviour ever. Hes shy and insecure, clingy and needed. He should be a massive turn off. It goes against everything I've learnt from the DJ bible.

But what's this? ITS WORKING!?

And whats worse is that I liked this girl and was slowly working on her with kino and my ****y & funny charm... But now hes got her!!!!


Please someone enlighten me...
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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This is the biggest afc behaviour ever. Hes shy and insecure, clingy and needed. He should be a massive turn off. It goes against everything I've learnt from the DJ bible.

But what's this? ITS WORKING!?
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I think you've been reading too much, mate :).

In the real world clingy/insecure/needy guys can still get women... I mean... how do you think so many people are getting together all over the world? Surely you can't expect every single one of them to be... well... what you'd expect them to be.
 
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Same thing here pal. I now this guy from like 6 years now, and he is one of the biggest AFCs you can think of and not really a good looking guy.

He is 19 and recently he started dating a 17 years old girl...

The worst part is that he didin't know how to kiss her, and he was extremely shy, but the little girl found that cute and teached him. I don't know how this HB 9.5 with plenty of experience with men can feel attraction for this dork... but it is happening in front of my eyes.


Some people are just lucky :)
 
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If thats true then that means that not all of the bible is completely true. Its like I spent years becoming this ****y and funny stud only to be beaten by this insecure and clingy guy (like I USED to be). Excuse me but its fkucking with my head a little bit. Not sure what to think anymore.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Relax, to me it looks like she is with him just because of pitty and nothing else, i've seen it happen and it really doesn't last long, nevertheless don't give up, **** happens and strange things too, but like i said for me she's just feeling sorry for him, theres no real attraction.
 
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Outkast said:
He is 19 and recently he started dating a 17 years old girl...
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Your answer is in that line.

Scoring a 17 year old is like shooting fish in a barrel. Dead fish even.
 
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They didn't even kiss what makes you think anything will happen? Ok they say he will hookup over the holiday. Where will that go if he even gets her. It will take awhile for him to get laid.

The other guy that the other poster was talking about got lucky. What will happen if she leaves him?

You will never be out gamed by such AFCness because she would drop him in any second for a much cooler guy. An your also missing the point of why you are learning this and that is to get women consistently. Not just one girl MANY girls. That will mean you can have a gf and decide to get 3,4,9, or 20 more girls if you wanted because you know how to get them constantly. You will never run out of women to get.

Now the AFC guys who get lucky have that one girl and they better get married because once they leave it will be very hard to find another girl. Its like my one AFC friend he found a girl to talk to he wasted 7 months of AFCness, spoke everyday, and used any free time he had to speak to her. He didn't even get laid, kiss or anything. Now they stopped talking and he has managed to find a new girl. He is still doing the same things but he got lucky even being able to talk to this girl. I can put money up that he won't lay her anytime soon if ever.
 
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Ok thanks guys. Ill see what happens and report it here.
 
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Its all over. She told him she "really doesn't want a boyfriend right now". She sure, nice excuse ;)

Well at least my faith in the DJ bible has been restored and I wonder why I ever doubted it, even slightly.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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