"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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what the hell am i supposed to say

lordson

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i'm seeing a girl (not going out offically yet) and we can hold decent conversations on the phone, not anything outstanding

but today and more and more recnetly i'm finding it hard to bring up anything to say when im with her

we're in bed messing around a bit, and its great, but once we're downstairs, i just dont know wtf to say to her, especially in the car, didn't say a single word, didn't quite feel awkward, but if it happens any more then it might

i'm aiming for a V-LTR here, shes the type of girl id want to be with, i've seen qualitites in her,

maybe its cos we've exhausted everythign we can say, seen her everyday for past 2 months, + 1-2 hours on phone

any suggestions? ideas?

shes the one who really drives our conversations

cheers fellas
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Stop talking to her on the phone so much. Thats all the stuff you can talk to her in person about..
 

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what's that i see???... could it be???...no way!!!!....,yap it is......THE END.
 

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Originally posted by spider_007
what's that i see???... could it be???...no way!!!!....,yap it is......THE END.
I see it too. Damn. haha
 

lordson

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come on, fair go mate

care to expalin why? ive never had this problem before today

today we did alot more in teh bedroom than usual, adn i guess we were i a hurry to get out of teh house,

okay fine, it really was just in teh car when this happened, but you almost never talk to anybody in a car rite? sometiems i go entire trian tirps without sayign nothign to my mates
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Originally posted by lordson

okay fine, it really was just in teh car when this happened, but you almost never talk to anybody in a car rite? sometiems i go entire trian tirps without sayign nothign to my mates
I dont mean to sound like the spelling nazi mate, but fvck me dead you cant be serious with that scribble surely?. I'm seeing it more and more lately aswell, did schools dump the 3 R's or something?
 

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Originally posted by lordson
come on, fair go mate

care to expalin why? ive never had this problem before today

today we did alot more in teh bedroom than usual, adn i guess we were i a hurry to get out of teh house,

okay fine, it really was just in teh car when this happened, but you almost never talk to anybody in a car rite? sometiems i go entire trian tirps without sayign nothign to my mates

The reason why you can go almost never talking to anybody in a car ride is because you are COMPFORTABLE with that person.

Usually it's family members and friends that you do this with.

If your really comfortable with that person you won't FEEL like you HAVE to talk to that person when you don't have anything good to say.

Now you know what your and a lot of other people problem is?

You talk to much on the phone.

You see each other too much.

Your burning the wick on both sides my friend.

Slow it down. It’s only been a month or two.

Trust me I’ve been there where I talk to my GF everyday on the phone for hours.

And you know what end up happening?



1. We started to run out of things to talk about either on phone or worse when we are in person in a situation where it would of been a good time to bring up some of that stuff but we already talked about it.

Thus bringing us back to the point, that you’re

just not that comfortable being with her in silent with out having

the need to say anything.




2. It became a routine. A choir.

I felt as if I don't call its going to start something. And guess what? It did when I decided you know i don't want to call her
tonight.

Ha, Get a call I don't answer it. Don't call back the next day.

And when I do finally call or she calls me its

"What's wrong?"

:rolleyes:



So look if you want those awkward silence’s to stop then save a few topics to yourself for those times.

And stop calling and see her so much.

And I guarantee you before long she will value your time more. And start seeing you as a prize.

Save all those long chats and mushy stuff when your married or in along long term relationship. Longer then 2 months :p
 

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take some space from this..way way way way toooo much!

but its not over for you
 
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