"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What THE FVCK DO I DO NOW!!

the_great_gaia

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Wassup everybody, I'm going thru a major fvcking crisis!

ok, this friday (yesterday), my girl Te Te, went to Charlotte. While she was there we talked on the phone for a lil bit and I even seen her a lil' bit before she went to Charlotte (with her family).

While in Charlotte, she was telling me that on Sat. when she come back home that we would spend all night together and whatever we had planned. When she got home, her lil' sister's b/f was arrested for possession of a firearm, and he will be serving 2 years in prison. The sister was so fvcked up in the head and my girl decided that she would stay home and be with her sister at her time of need (they're close), but Te Te asked me to come by so she could see me (she always want to see me). I came and we talked. I feel like I made a few mistakes. FIRST mistake was me going over to see her. Went i was there, she came out and we sat in my car and talked. She kept asking me if i was mad and she kept telling me that she felt really bad and that we could see each other tomorrow (sunday). I bought her lingerie from Victoria Secret as a surprize and I told her and asked her if i should take it back to the store or if she wanted to keep it.

She decided to keep it. Her sister was calling her to come back in the house soon after (Te Te and I kissed, and caked like usual).. I let her go and Te Te told me that after she and her sister was done talking that she would call me to come back over to spend more time with her.

I went home and watched a complete movie. After the movie, I felt like Te Te forgot about me so I called her, and went I called, she told me she was just laying down. This pissed me off, and she asked me if i could see her tomorrow. My attitude was so obvious and I was like "whatever". And we got off the phone. We usually tell each other "I Love You" before we get off the phone, but i was like "whatever" and she was too.

After getting off the phone, Te Te called me RIGHT BACK within seconds! She said "Why did you get off the phone with me like that?" "Are you mad at me?"

I told her i was mad because she broke my plans. And then she said sorry and said "I Love you" and that she was about to go to sleep. I just said "Good Night" and we got off the phone. About 5 mins later, I called back to tell her "I Love you" because I cooled down. But she started acting weird, and she wouldn't say it back. I asked her was she mad at me, and she said she was and that I hurt her feelings when I didn't say I love you the first two times. and then she was like MAYBE I will get to see her sunday. and then she was saying that she was so sleepy and that she wanted to get off the phone so she could go to bed. I asked her was I getting on her nerves. And she said I was getting on her nerves a lil' bit because I wouldn't let her get off the phone. So I said "I love you" and she said it back, and we got off the phone. i was telling myself that I was "slipping" and i can't help but feel like i fvcked up tonight. Can I please have some advice? I really like this girl and I'm usually in control of the situation but I feel like I handed her the balls. Please help me, what do i do now???
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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backbreaker

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first of all, this is why I don't date broads younger than me. you guys are tossing around the word love like it's a pack of gum. you aren't in LOVE. you are getting consistant ***** which you love. but neither of you love each other.


nothing crisis about it.. just break contact for a while and see what happens. if she wants to be with you she will be with you, if not, oh well, move on
 
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This is a troll post!! "Te Te", what the hell is that - a teddy bear? "Love", is she your wife? Quit being a fool!!!
 

Effington

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You were fine until you called her back to apologize. That's when you look like the melodramatic drama queen. This looks minor and you should be fine.

Remember, the key to everything is confidence. Would a man who could get anyone keep asking for reassurance? No, he would know he's the man, and not keep asking for someone to assure that. He would also drop the subject because this minor BS wouldn't bother him.
 

the_great_gaia

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Te Te is her nickname, its short for "Tessa". This is no troll post. It's serious.

You say this is "minor", does that mean i can get MY BALLS back with no damage done? Or do i STILL have them? And the "NO CONTACT" part... I was wondering, if she calls me today, should I answer my phone?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Telos

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Yes. You still have your balls. Answer your phone. Talk like a fvcking man now. Stop trying to micromanage her tiny shifts in emotion. It sounds like metaphorically you are trying to play an extremely complex plate spinning game with the full spectrum of your indecisive girlfriend's emotions. shlt is falling.

When she calls again, don't fvcking apologize. Don't even talk about what happened. Elicit a happy response and get both of you to laugh about something. Bring up a funny memory. Fart into the phone and complain about the smell. ANYTHING.

If she wants to get off the phone and act a little pissy, good for her. leave her alone. don't call her back to say I love you when she's already in a pissed off negative state... duh
 

I.A.F.Y.B.

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backbreaker said:
first of all, this is why I don't date broads younger than me. you guys are tossing around the word love like it's a pack of gum. you aren't in LOVE. you are getting consistant ***** which you love. but neither of you love each other.


nothing crisis about it.. just break contact for a while and see what happens. if she wants to be with you she will be with you, if not, oh well, move on
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Last Man Standing said:
This is a troll post!! "Te Te", what the hell is that - a teddy bear? "Love", is she your wife? Quit being a fool!!!
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