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what the f*ck is up with her?

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me and this girl did stuff, she went on holiday came back said she didnt want to because she didnt want to ruin our friendship (we were hardly friends so it was definitely an excuse) i think fine ok and continue on my merry way.

i flirt with girls and she gets really upset, starts crying because a girl was sitting on my lap. i asked her what her problem was, she said she still liked me i said well do you want anything to happen? she said no i said then quit moaning.

she didnt, she still got all upset. i got together with a girl and did stuff and she found out called me up had a go at me etc, and moaned about me being with other girls. once again she tells me she doesnt want anything to happen.

i then find out that she has recently got a boyfriend, yet she still moans if i flirt with girls!

the next day we are all sitting in the cafeteria but there are plenty of free seats, she comes over and sits on my lap. i tell her to get off, she refuses and flirts loads with me, she also keeps standing up with her ass right in my face and pulls them up to cover her underwear BUT she does this every 2 minutes and rather than cover her underwear she puls her trousers down for a second to flash me basically.

so whats going on? she has a boyfriend yet flirts ALOT with me even when i'm mean to her.

o yea, shes invited some people round her house this saturday, her boyfriend wont be there and she isnt inviting one girl because she thinks i like her. sounds to me that she wants me and her to do stuff... what you guys think?
 

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Originally posted by LilKid
ye nail her
Stick your dork in her mouth ;)
 

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Never listent o what women say. You did stuff. It was good. She wants more. When you are with other girls, she has a very small chance of doing stuff again. When you are free, you'll be more willing to do stuff. Go to the party, dont ASK questions, just HANDLE her, do stuff.

Lol, if shes hot enough to do stuff with once, and its obvious she wants to do stuff again, DO STUFF.

By the way, if I ever see another post as ambiguous as this, I will simply flame you. Say what you did, we are all mature sexual creatures, were not going to giggle @ you.
 

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With all due respect, ignore the first three responses because IMO you haven't had the right feedback until now:


If you haven't, read DEKKA's post on Losing Control. This is essential what you're starting to do. By flirting with other girls, you maintain that you are your own man, that she either A) needs to stop b1ching or B) step up and try to get you.

THE SECOND YOU GIVE IN TO HER, you've lost your power. DON'T GO to the party if you know she'll be all over you. DON'T do anything with her.

If you do, she knows that she can get you at any time and whether or not you get some good pvssy, SHE now has the control. bad move. IMO, remind her constantly that she has a BF and until she meets YOUR TERMS, you're not gonna do shyt with her.

i.e.
1. break up with bf
2. stop whining when u flirt with others
3. make her willing to COMMIT
4. prove herself to you. prove she's worth YOUR time
5. then, finally, you can consider talking to her.

otherwise, bag this one. you hook up= you give her the power. simple as that.

hope it helps
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Originally posted by bust.it
With all due respect, ignore the first three responses because IMO you haven't had the right feedback until now:


If you haven't, read DEKKA's post on Losing Control. This is essential what you're starting to do. By flirting with other girls, you maintain that you are your own man, that she either A) needs to stop b1ching or B) step up and try to get you.

THE SECOND YOU GIVE IN TO HER, you've lost your power. DON'T GO to the party if you know she'll be all over you. DON'T do anything with her.

If you do, she knows that she can get you at any time and whether or not you get some good pvssy, SHE now has the control. bad move. IMO, remind her constantly that she has a BF and until she meets YOUR TERMS, you're not gonna do shyt with her.

i.e.
1. break up with bf
2. stop whining when u flirt with others
3. make her willing to COMMIT
4. prove herself to you. prove she's worth YOUR time
5. then, finally, you can consider talking to her.

otherwise, bag this one. you hook up= you give her the power. simple as that.

hope it helps
So much for fun on friday nights. Damn, if I waited for a woman to prove she could commit before I got with them you could chalk up 1/3 of all the fun times I've had. In HS, any theoretical commitment is BS anyways.

If he gets play, he has not lost control. The only way to lose control is to surrender it. When she cheats on her BF with you, you have a great time, and wake up the next day with no strings and no guilt, you have not surrendered anything. You are interpreting conrol incorrectly.
 

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bang the dog**** out of her...make her want you more than her boyfriend...but dont let her have you...you have won the game...
 

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Originally posted by TonyTheTigerOI

By the way, if I ever see another post as ambiguous as this, I will simply flame you. Say what you did, we are all mature sexual creatures, were not going to giggle @ you.
sorry but i didnt know what got edited etc, ive been on boards where ass gets blanked out. we did everything but f*ck, and yea id like to do it again.

im going to go to her house and see what happens, im not going to be all over her but if she offers then im going to take it. i dont want a relationship with her but shes got a great body and shes good at giving head so why not?

i can see what you mean though bust.it if i wanted a relationship then i would probably follow your advice so i;ll keep it in mind.

and another thing tonythetiger, i dont see how what we did has any bearing on the advice you would give? or do you just like hearing details about other peoples sex lives?
 

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Originally posted by TonyTheTigerOI
If he gets play, he has not lost control. The only way to lose control is to surrender it. When she cheats on her BF with you, you have a great time, and wake up the next day with no strings and no guilt, you have not surrendered anything.
Tony,

This isn't about a ONS with this girl, and it's not about flirting and having a good time or not.

He loses control if AFTER she flirts with him, he gives in, then he's given here to power to manipulate him. It's not a level playing field (is it ever?) The point is, in THIS situation, if he suddenly turns around and lets her get her way, while it may be fun for a night, it symbolizes that he's not that big a challenge and puts the ball in her court.

btw, if he slept with the girl who has a BF, i definately think you'd wake up WITH strings attached, whether you like them or not. and you've no doubt surrendered to her sexual come-ons... that's why she's in the bed next to you.
 

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Originally posted by bust.it
Tony,

This isn't about a ONS with this girl, and it's not about flirting and having a good time or not.

He loses control if AFTER she flirts with him, he gives in, then he's given here to power to manipulate him. It's not a level playing field (is it ever?) The point is, in THIS situation, if he suddenly turns around and lets her get her way, while it may be fun for a night, it symbolizes that he's not that big a challenge and puts the ball in her court.

btw, if he slept with the girl who has a BF, i definately think you'd wake up WITH strings attached, whether you like them or not. and you've no doubt surrendered to her sexual come-ons... that's why she's in the bed next to you.
Bust it, you make good points. However, it is about ONSs. If you can wake up sunday morning after doing your thing, put your pants on, kiss her, and leave... she has no control. In fact, she has less control than she started with, because now she has folled around with you 2x, cheated on her BF, and still doesn't have you. It puts PRESSURE on her socially to get with you, and to keep you. The more stringless sex you have, the easier it is to get.

Rich, it does matter. If all you did was make out, she is under VERY little social stress to get with you and keep you. If you had sex, she is under a TON of stress. The more stress shes under the more laid back you are, the less stress, the more actively you persue her.

Its never a chase, but always a hunt.

And rich, I don't give the steam off my piss wheather you ****ed her in the ass and blew it her mouth, in doing so caught every desease known to man. The more detailed with which you describe the situation, the better advice you will recieve.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Originally posted by bust.it
Tony,

This isn't about a ONS with this girl, and it's not about flirting and having a good time or not.

He loses control if AFTER she flirts with him, he gives in, then he's given here to power to manipulate him. It's not a level playing field (is it ever?) The point is, in THIS situation, if he suddenly turns around and lets her get her way, while it may be fun for a night, it symbolizes that he's not that big a challenge and puts the ball in her court.

btw, if he slept with the girl who has a BF, i definately think you'd wake up WITH strings attached, whether you like them or not. and you've no doubt surrendered to her sexual come-ons... that's why she's in the bed next to you.
Bust it, you make good points. However, it is about ONSs. If you can wake up sunday morning after doing your thing, put your pants on, kiss her, and leave... she has no control. In fact, she has less control than she started with, because now she has folled around with you 2x, cheated on her BF, and still doesn't have you. It puts PRESSURE on her socially to get with you, and to keep you. The more stringless sex you have, the easier it is to get.

Rich, it does matter. If all you did was make out, she is under VERY little social stress to get with you and keep you. If you had sex, she is under a TON of stress. The more stress shes under the more laid back you are, the less stress, the more actively you persue her.

Its never a chase, but always a hunt.

And rich, I don't give the steam off my piss wheather you ****ed her in the ass and blew it her mouth, in doing so caught every desease known to man. The more detailed with which you describe the situation, the better advice you will recieve.
 

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Originally posted by bust.it
Tony,

This isn't about a ONS with this girl, and it's not about flirting and having a good time or not.

He loses control if AFTER she flirts with him, he gives in, then he's given here to power to manipulate him. It's not a level playing field (is it ever?) The point is, in THIS situation, if he suddenly turns around and lets her get her way, while it may be fun for a night, it symbolizes that he's not that big a challenge and puts the ball in her court.

btw, if he slept with the girl who has a BF, i definately think you'd wake up WITH strings attached, whether you like them or not. and you've no doubt surrendered to her sexual come-ons... that's why she's in the bed next to you.
Bust it, you make good points. However, it is about ONSs. If you can wake up sunday morning after doing your thing, put your pants on, kiss her, and leave... she has no control. In fact, she has less control than she started with, because now she has folled around with you 2x, cheated on her BF, and still doesn't have you. It puts PRESSURE on her socially to get with you, and to keep you. The more stringless sex you have, the easier it is to get.

Rich, it does matter. If all you did was make out, she is under VERY little social stress to get with you and keep you. If you had sex, she is under a TON of stress. The more stress shes under the more laid back you are, the less stress, the more actively you persue her.

Its never a chase, but always a hunt.

And rich, I don't give the steam off my piss wheather you ****ed her in the ass and blew it her mouth, in doing so caught every desease known to man. The more detailed with which you describe the situation, the better advice you will recieve.
 
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what are you trying to achieve out of posting about a FLAKY girl?

She's mindless, indicisive, and obviously deserves to be slapped.

Don't go listen to her, or pay attention to her bickering , whining and bullsh*t,.
 
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