"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What the *blip* just happened?

TheGaiaGrit

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A friend of mine has been talking non-stop about a friend of his (his girlfriend's best friend) that she would be great for me... yadda yadda yadda.

So last night I'm hanging around with him and his girlfriend and this girl show up. And when they left the 2 of us alone this happened:

Me - I think that if I didn't come tonight (my friend) would kill me...
Her - (laughing) He's keen on getting a boyfriend/girlfriend to the two of us.
Me - He likes playing cupid doesn't he?
Her - (laughing) And (my friend's girlfriend) too.
Me - So they're perfect for each other...
Her - They really are. They look so cute together.

(and then... out of nowhere she goes with this)

Her - The true is that I don't really believe in true love... Fairy stories don't exist.
Me - Wow... that sound like a speech from a 60-year-old single woman.
Her - (laughing) No... I just don't think that perfect relationships really exist.
Me - You should write this stuff to a relationship magazine...
Her - I think that a lot of people think this way... or not. But I've seen you don't... (laughing) Don't give up on love.

What the *blip* just happened there?

By the way, according to my friend, she got out from a relationship in November and he thinks that the guy cheated on her...
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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If you talk to a girl and need to write an article asking what happened, chances are, chemistry is not what happened.

If she didn't kiss you or give you her number you are dead in the water.
 

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Agreed.

Mike32ct's inner cynic is saying "Dont give up on love" approximately equals "Don't worry. You'll make some girl really happy someday."

The other problem is your friend(s) tried way to hard to fix you two up.
Women generally don't like being fixed up. The more you try to set her up with a guy, the more turned off by him she is. They only tolerate it if it is done in a very laid back, low pressure kind of way. The correct way to fix someone up is just to introduce them once and back off.

You didn't do anything wrong. Charge it to the game.

Although your friend(s) will tell you otherwise because they are bent on setting you up with her. Don't be surprised if you hear "Dude just call her. She really likes you. She's just shy" lol.
 

TheGaiaGrit

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The truth is I entered the situation just to please my friend, no 2nd thoughts.

Only asked what happened because I've never been in a situation where I'm talking with a girl and 5 minutes after we meet and out of nowhere she starts talking about love... I just wanted to know what happened (if it is normal or was it me or was the girl messed up ;) )
 

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TheGaiaGrit said:
The truth is I entered the situation just to please my friend, no 2nd thoughts.

Only asked what happened because I've never been in a situation where I'm talking with a girl and 5 minutes after we meet and out of nowhere she starts talking about love... I just wanted to know what happened (if it is normal or was it me or was the girl messed up ;) )
from your dialogue that's what the topic of conversation seemed to be about relationships, their relationship and how "they're perfect for each other". "he likes playing cupid doesn't he?" lol saying those things you're just as guilty as she is talking about it. in other words you shouldn't be surprised that she brought it up.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

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TheGaiaGrit said:
(and then... out of nowhere she goes with this)

Her - The true is that I don't really believe in true love... Fairy stories don't exist.
Me - Wow... that sound like a speech from a 60-year-old single woman.
Her - (laughing) No... I just don't think that perfect relationships really exist....

could have gone along with..."Ive pretty much given up on finding that 'one ' person to be honest, and Ive got too much going on anyway to fully commit to anyone. "

Might have led to an FB or a one off lay, who knows? depending on her response, just my way of seeing it
 

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Sounds like she's bitter and cynical about relationships. Never a good sign when first meeting someone. Just be glad she didn't go into a tirade of how much she hates them. These girls aren't healthy to be with, and are almost always emotionally unavailable *****es. Not sure what else to make of it. Could be an indirect rejection. Who knows.
 

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I see nothing happened here, could just be a normal conversation. If you have interest in her why not call her up and offer her a date.
 
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