"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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What should i expect/do??

PimpC 2k3

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ok my ex-girl from about three years ago and i have been friends ever since we broke up. I see her occasionally, but not often but When we do see each other, if often by coincedence, or we're jus bumpin into each other. Like we never plan to meet really. I talk to her on the pc like everyday. We talk to each other bout everything including how her and her bf are doin. Now they're broken up and the otha day out of nowhere i asked her to go to a baseball game wit me and she said yea. Should i consider this a date or just a friend outing. like should i try and do things with her or what??
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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neobrood

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like should i try and do things with her or what??
its up to you. Do you see her as a friend? Are you still attracted to her? Would it make you happy if you and her become boyfriend girlfriend again?

But in case you're planning to do things with her and attempt to get her back, its gonna be a HARD SHOT... no matter how much of a don juan you became in 3 years... :D

Good luck tho... ;)
 

Jerky Boi

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Well from what you said, it seems like you guys are too far into the friend's zone to become something more. It's up to you though..if you think risking your friendship with her is worth it, then go for it.


Although, there's nothing wrong with going out and doing something with her. Try to see her more often and make your decision.
 
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