What should be my next move?

[Charmy]

Geez. I dont even know where to begin. But you came to the right place. Welcome to SoSuave young Padowan.

Bottom line is you shoot youself in the foot with this girl, a long time ago. You c0ckblocked yourself. But its all right, we all started somewhere.

Go read Rollo Tomasi´s The Rational male. One of his iron rules is something along the lines that its always time best spent developing new prespect relationships than trying to repair one that doesnt work. So as for this girl, obviously stop reaching out to her, DO NOT spend any more time or effort on her.

Spin more plates.



Aight, I went and looked it up for you. Here it is:

#7 Develop new relationships: don’t fix broken ones
Your time and effort are better spent looking for new ones than fixing the unfixable ones.



There´s a lot stuff you can read for free right here: https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/recommended-books-for-all-men-new-members-start-here.269601/

Go read it and come back to this thread with any questions you may have.

Thank you.
Started with the Audiobook of The Rational Male.

 

[BeExcellent]

Start with The Rational Male.

Thus says the old lady.

 

[BPH]

Yes.
I've started to read. Starting by The Book of Pook first. The list goes on like this,
2. The art of worldly wisdom by Baltasar Gracian
3. Models by Mark Manson
4. The Seduction Bible by Masculinity Rediscovered
5. Illimitable Men
6. The story of my life by casanova
7. The Game by Neil Strauss
8. Mystery method by Mystery
9. Revelation by Mystery
10. The art of seduction by Robert Greene
11. Men are from Mars women are from Venus
5.

I would prioritise The Art of Seduction, maybe The Book of Pook, but nothing is gonna help you so much as taking action. In this case, that means going to the gym and talking to other women.

Don't get into the habit of reading all this material, but never taking action.

 

[BeExcellent]

I would prioritise The Art of Seduction, maybe The Book of Pook, but nothing is gonna help you so much as taking action. In this case, that means going to the gym and talking to other women.

Don't get into the habit of reading all this material, but never taking action.

Art of Seduction is a very good book, well referenced and in depth. It is also a very meaty read. It is not going to give you direct listings of "Do this" and "Don't do that". It discusses principles and the human psychology behind those principles.

The Iron Rules of Tomassi will give you immediate things to stop doing immediately and start doing immediately.

Combine that with Art of Seduction principles and you'll get very solid guidance.....

So long as you can set aside your ego and take honest stock of your behavior up til now.

Drop Sabrina. Drop the whole stupid group. She has zero respect for you and openly insults you...she's not wrong, but she is so disrespectful that she is mean.

Like the cat hissing and swiping at you with claws.

 

[BadBoy89]

2. The art of worldly wisdom by Baltasar Gracian
3. Models by Mark Manson
4. The Seduction Bible by Masculinity Rediscovered
5. Illimitable Men
6. The story of my life by casanova
7. The Game by Neil Strauss
8. Mystery method by Mystery
9. Revelation by Mystery
10. The art of seduction by Robert Greene
11. Men are from Mars women are from Venus

Whoa bro, maybe start with ONE book and go from there.

I know everyone says "the gym", but you got to be little careful with "the gym" if you are not at least 6'0. You don't want to look buff if you are shorter than 6'0. It would be much better to go swimming if you are under 6'0.

Ill take back my words once Tinder women say "Height doesn't matter"

 

[BeExcellent]

The other thing to do is use the Search function on this website.

There are many many many topics that get covered over & over again. You can gain lots of insight from old posts.

 

[coldapproach]

The other thing to do is use the Search function on this website.

There are many many many topics that get covered over & over again. You can gain lots of insight from old posts.

But I heard that repetition is very important..so if we cover the same stuff, from multiple angles.. then the knowledge will be deeper.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Yes.
I've started to read. Starting by The Book of Pook first. The list goes on like this,
2. The art of worldly wisdom by Baltasar Gracian
3. Models by Mark Manson
4. The Seduction Bible by Masculinity Rediscovered
5. Illimitable Men
6. The story of my life by casanova
7. The Game by Neil Strauss
8. Mystery method by Mystery
9. Revelation by Mystery
10. The art of seduction by Robert Greene
11. Men are from Mars women are from Venus
5.

I would personally skip most of those books and start with the Red Pill Sidebar. The reason I’d begin there is because there were probably several failed tests, insecure behaviours, and unmet expectations that caused this girl to lose interest. And when she did, the fact that you thought you could fix the situation by over-explaining or negotiating makes me realize you might not fully understand how modern dating works. That archive breaks down concepts like patterns in attraction, common male and female behaviours, and typical dating dynamics (hypergamy, AWALT, DEER, Male/Female Attraction Cues, etc)

A big disclaimer, though: when you start processing this material, you may go through an anger phase; an emotional reaction where you feel like everything you were taught growing up was misleading. It’s important to work through those feelings and understand that the goal is not to resent women, but to learn how to navigate dating in a healthier, more grounded way.

Sidenote: I’d probably read No More Mr. Nice Guy once you’re done with that. Don’t forget to hit the gym while simultaneously read this information.

https://theredarchive.com/TheRedPill%20Sidebar%20-%20A5%20-%20Sans%20Serif.pdf

 

[Charmy]

I would personally skip most of those books and start with the Red Pill Sidebar. The reason I’d begin there is because there were probably several failed tests, insecure behaviours, and unmet expectations that caused this girl to lose interest. And when she did, the fact that you thought you could fix the situation by over-explaining or negotiating makes me realize you might not fully understand how modern dating works. That archive breaks down concepts like patterns in attraction, common male and female behaviours, and typical dating dynamics (hypergamy, AWALT, DEER, Male/Female Attraction Cues, etc)

A big disclaimer, though: when you start processing this material, you may go through an anger phase; an emotional reaction where you feel like everything you were taught growing up was misleading. It’s important to work through those feelings and understand that the goal is not to resent women, but to learn how to navigate dating in a healthier, more grounded way.

Sidenote: I’d probably read No More Mr. Nice Guy once you’re done with that. Don’t forget to hit the gym while simultaneously read this information.

https://theredarchive.com/TheRedPill%20Sidebar%20-%20A5%20-%20Sans%20Serif.pdf

Thank you brother

 

[Charmy]

I would personally skip most of those books and start with the Red Pill Sidebar. The reason I’d begin there is because there were probably several failed tests, insecure behaviours, and unmet expectations that caused this girl to lose interest. And when she did, the fact that you thought you could fix the situation by over-explaining or negotiating makes me realize you might not fully understand how modern dating works. That archive breaks down concepts like patterns in attraction, common male and female behaviours, and typical dating dynamics (hypergamy, AWALT, DEER, Male/Female Attraction Cues, etc)

A big disclaimer, though: when you start processing this material, you may go through an anger phase; an emotional reaction where you feel like everything you were taught growing up was misleading. It’s important to work through those feelings and understand that the goal is not to resent women, but to learn how to navigate dating in a healthier, more grounded way.

Sidenote: I’d probably read No More Mr. Nice Guy once you’re done with that. Don’t forget to hit the gym while simultaneously read this information.

https://theredarchive.com/TheRedPill%20Sidebar%20-%20A5%20-%20Sans%20Serif.pdf

Sabrina likes ( massive fan) BTS.
Her type is Jungkook.
She likes kdrama.
Can you tell anything by that cos those type of men are not hypermasculine, like said in the Red pill.

 

[Vanderdonck]

"There's a girl."

All I'll add is when in doubt, put them on ice. Don't reach out. Obviously she'd already blocked you etc. and made very clear you were crossing boundaries. Learn from this and be the sun in your system, let them orbit you. Soon there will never be a case of "there's this girl..."

 

[coldapproach]

She's just a slout. All One itis are the same!

 

[Clockwerk50]

Sabrina likes ( massive fan) BTS.
Her type is Jungkook.
She likes kdrama.
Can you tell anything by that cos those type of men are not hypermasculine, like said in the Red pill.

I don’t know who they are but there is an archetype in The Art of Seduction called the Dandy. The Dandy is an attractive male or female because they mix masculine and feminine traits and create a unique, mysterious vibe that people find exciting and freeing. There was also another comment in the forum from a member in the past explaining that men with more feminine qualities—not the ultra-masculine type—often end up being the ones who get laid the most. Nonetheless, the first phase in The Art of Seduction explains what characteristics each person can have that are magnetic and attractive. For example, the Siren includes women who are social butterflies and dress provocatively; the Charismatic can tell good stories and doesn’t mind the spotlight; and the Star, as the name suggests, is someone with standout qualities, like a star athlete or even a standout nerd. Either way, these are highly advanced concepts, so I digress.

The reason why I told you to read the Red Pill sidebar is not to become a hyper-masculine caricature but to give you an eye-opener about how the dating world works. For example, concepts like women having a biological clock mean they don’t have the time to wait for a man to make a move, make up his mind, gain social awareness, make money, etc. They don’t want a project; they want a finished product. Also, because of this factor, women’s love is unconditional, and just because she gives you attention, kisses you, or hooks up with you, the future with her is still uncertain since you are constantly being vetted through tests to determine whether you’re the ideal man for her childbearing years and future children.

Other concepts in the sidebar include spinning plates, which is similar to what many women do to maintain abundance in their dating life, as well as theories like having a purpose because people who get infatuated easily are usually unhappy, have too much time on their hands, and assume unconsciously the other person is the missing piece to the puzzle.

Again, it’s not about hypermasculinity, and sometimes the content can come across as misogynistic, but the sidebar gives you a foundational understanding of self-sufficiency, why certain dynamics occur, it helps you make decisions about creating the life you envision, and prevents you from bending the knee to anyone but yourself.

 

[Barrister]

OP,

You’re 21. Get off the stupid social media and focus on your goals. Absolutely read Rational Male, but think about your own goals too. I remember being 21 and not able to stop thinking with my other head like you, but trust me when I say that women aren’t going anywhere. Build your empire and then worry about them. If you’re successful, you’ll have plenty of options. You’ll also have plenty of opportunities along the way without making them a priority - which, in fact, they (women) will find attractive.

 

[Prepostereax]

Get off the stupid social media and focus on your goals

Nailed it.
That oughta be stickied at the top