"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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What seperates the guys who are always successful from the others?

What is the main reason that some guys are so successful with women?


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JHeights83rd

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guys who have always been successful with women because they have social proof. They somehow got that advantage over other people. Probably they were born with charisma and saying the right thing at the right time (Social skills) Also anything from dressing well to playing on a team, helps you get status and those things give you the chance to say the right thing at the right time. So they subconscously get this feeling of being sure of themselves. they may have deep insecurities, they might not. Then they just go on through high school learning from mistakes, but what got the ball rolling up front was the luck of being in a situation to say the right thing.

See people who have always been good with girls, never had to make themselves have a lot of confidence. In reality, if you have no practical knowledge and you have some insecurities, even if you tell your brain to think confident, you really are not confident. Which brings up another point that if you got girls because you were on the football team, you could one day "lose your touch" ive seen it b4, this guy was a football player, women came to him, but now when hes older, he became a suplicating afc. Jus
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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CompleteControl

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Charisma! If you have charisma you exude confidence. You also build rapport and have social skills.

None of the others is absolutely necessary.
 

BrotherAP

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I like to think of it being a matter of subtracting, not adding. As in, if you start with a man who has none of the above traits (and what a sad man that would be) and you start to add, it'll be a while before you actually make something attractive. Each trait has it's value, some more than others, but no one thing from that list will get a person laid.

Go the other way, start with a man who has it all (what a stud!) and start taking away traits, you'll still have a man that can get a girl from time to time. Eventually, you'll remove enough that he's just not good enough anymore, and he wont be the stud he once was. But, just like adding one trait from the list won't make all the difference for most guys, removing just one isn't going to kill everything either. It's all relative.

That said, I'd vote for a tie between Confidence (takes charge) and Masculinity (controlled and sexual). Two biggies.

Oh, and the good news - more or less every single one of those traits are things that can be developed. So if you're the man with none of them, well chin up. There's hope.
 

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THE REAL ANSWER---guys that are great were not born that way, they made mistakes. It all comes down to the amount of FIELD PRACTICE. You are reading this right now........stop reading and go in the field and try this stuff out for yourself. I submit those guys have tried tons of stuff and got rejected, slapped, no response. Any guy that appears smooth with da ladies is a skill set. A craft that he has sculpted, tweaked from years of trial and error. Forget clothes, colognes, money, looks.............expand your comfort zone, practice and I bet a year from now after hitting on hundreds of women you too will be smooth. You'll even find that you have graduated from the need to use any pick-up line or even to hit on every hot chic. Again it's a learned skill set.

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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Zerotwoonenine

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i would say all the choices you have listed are what makes men successful with women.
 

Ricky

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Godsgift is right.

I've been on this board for years. I went through a dryspell after a rough breakup (the worst case of oneitis, I was sure this girl was the one I should marry and she dumped me because she was too scared to follow through on moving halfway across the country for me, although originally it was her idea to do it).

I took a break. I didn't approach or anything. And I got zero results.

But now I'm back and doing well.

No matter what anyone has or is. The guy still has to be in the field and approach.
 
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