"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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What possible reason is there that somebody could be great at making friends but bad with women?

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and I'm not talking about making friends with nerds - I'm very good at making attractive, successful, intelligent, upscale people like me... I made 3 new friends last week or so. One was nearly a professional baseball player - tall good looking white dude. I made friends with another couple (both man and woman very attractive and successful)

All these people who meet me and get to know me even for 10 minutes all say the same thing about me - that I'm genuinely an awesome person in addition to being very strong in all the superficial areas

Outside of a lack of confidence, is there any explanation for this?

Am I not succeeding with women because I feel like subconsciously I don't deserve it?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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bigdave17 said:
all say the same thing about me - that I'm genuinely an awesome person in addition to being very strong in all the superficial areas
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How exactly does this information come out? Especially after meeting somebody so soon.

Do you actively seek feedback, or do most people spontaneously give you this information?
 
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My question is:

What possible reason is there that somebody could be great with women but bad with making friends?

and I'm not talking about ugly women - I'm very good at making attractive, successful, intelligent, upscale, sexy women like me... I had sex with 2 new women last week or so. One was nearly a professional actress - small good looking Chinese girl. I had sex with another 2 girls (both woman very attractive and successful)

All these girls who meet me and get to know me even for 10 minutes all say the same thing about me - that I'm genuinely an awesome person in addition to being very strong in all the superficial areas

Outside of a lack of confidence, is there any explanation for this?

Am I not succeeding with making friends because I feel like subconsciously I don't deserve it?
 
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taiyuu_otoko said:
How exactly does this information come out? Especially after meeting somebody so soon.

Do you actively seek feedback, or do most people spontaneously give you this information?
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People give it to me without asking - I never ever ask for feedback

I had a customer at work on Saturday say - and this is his exact words - "you know you look like a young Chaz Palminteri or Billy Zane. You should be making movies with your movie star good looks". He was a married man with his wife there

The couple I met at a bar...we got to know each other. They asked me why I was single and both of them kept just praising me up and down and telling me that I seem like a genuinely great guy. His girlfriend (a gorgeous 29 year old) said, again exact words- "just put yourself out there. I promise you that you will have no problems. You are very handsome"

You guys think I'm exaggerating or something here. I get this **** on a constant basis
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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bigdave17 said:
People give it to me without asking - I never ever ask for feedback

I had a customer at work on Saturday say - and this is his exact words - "you know you look like a young Chaz Palminteri or Billy Zane. You should be making movies with your movie star good looks". He was a married man with his wife there

The couple I met at a bar...we got to know each other. They asked me why I was single and both of them kept just praising me up and down and telling me that I seem like a genuinely great guy. His girlfriend (a gorgeous 29 year old) said, again exact words- "just put yourself out there. I promise you that you will have no problems. You are very handsome"

You guys think I'm exaggerating or something here. I get this **** on a constant basis
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I have still yet to see you go on a dating app and tell everyone how it goes.

You should get matches. Tell people on here what happened.

You don't even have to plan on meeting them, just do SOMETHING to prove to people here that you're not just wasting their time by responding to your posts. Nobody is paid to be here.

What is stopping you from putting your model good looks on Tinder, Bumble, and Badoo right now?
 
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If you are good at making friends but have a hard time closing with chicks it's because you are not being sexual enough. It's really all about timing. If you first meet a chick and you are too sexual she will think you don't really care about her and you are only interested in sex.

When you first meet a woman, you have to be a fun person... doing fun stuff... with things going on without her. You have to be a fun guy that does not really need her. Somewhere along the line you have to build an emotional connection... you do this by finding commonality and creating rapport.... THEN you get sexual. Part of being sexual is not being afraid of your masculinity, she has to know you want to fvck her without just coming out and saying that. You also can not be judgmental.... She has to know that she is safe letting herself go with you.
 
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