"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
What not to do.
- Thread starter Darth
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Atom Smasher
Master Don Juan
Actually this is what TO do. Be silly, have fun, bring up pretend scenarios that you are both a part of (that includes "secrets"), throw her for a loop with bizarre questions, look her in the eye with absolute confidence, appear unshaken, take her down a few pegs by framing her in less flattering scenarios (for him he was literally able to do this with the pics), essentially create a fun, playfull interaction. When you get a girl to jump in and go along with a playful, imaginary scenario (boyfriend/girlfriend, marriage, etc.) you pretty much have her in the bag.
Atom Smasher
Master Don Juan
She knows he's goofing around, but I see signs at times that she is intrigued by the game he's playing, kind of pleasantly surprised that it's not going to be just another boring interview. Don't forget, this is a supermodel here and the principles will work much better with a more "normal" and older girl.
One of the most effective weapons in my arsenal is the "You and me as insiders" tactic.
Bottom line, he dictated the frame and maintained total control of the interaction. He didn't fumble around and get lost for words like most of the guys in her orbit. It's not a great tutorial on interacting with women but there's a lot to be gleaned from this.
This girl is an insecure kid and didn't know how to react. An older, more experienced woman would have reacted in a much more positive, possibly "amused" way. Any time you bust them out of the boring and mundane you've removed your biggest hurdles.
This guy has a bit of a douchy air about him, but I give him an "A" for setting frame and controlling the conversation with a beautiful girl.
One of the most effective weapons in my arsenal is the "You and me as insiders" tactic.
Bottom line, he dictated the frame and maintained total control of the interaction. He didn't fumble around and get lost for words like most of the guys in her orbit. It's not a great tutorial on interacting with women but there's a lot to be gleaned from this.
This girl is an insecure kid and didn't know how to react. An older, more experienced woman would have reacted in a much more positive, possibly "amused" way. Any time you bust them out of the boring and mundane you've removed your biggest hurdles.
This guy has a bit of a douchy air about him, but I give him an "A" for setting frame and controlling the conversation with a beautiful girl.
He gets cred for this.
If he can get this far with a supermodel, I've got a feeling he can work over most other girls around that most guys wouldn't even think about going for.
I think he could use a more vibrant voice, though, with some deeper tones. But that's not as easily controllable... first thing that stuck out though.
On another note, it's interesting how many guys hate on him in the youtube comments. Seriously, what is that?
If he can get this far with a supermodel, I've got a feeling he can work over most other girls around that most guys wouldn't even think about going for.
I think he could use a more vibrant voice, though, with some deeper tones. But that's not as easily controllable... first thing that stuck out though.
On another note, it's interesting how many guys hate on him in the youtube comments. Seriously, what is that?
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Atom Smasher
Master Don Juan
They think he's being serious, they are infatuated with this broad, and hence the white knight syndrome comes out and obliterates reality.
The guy is obviously goofing around, scored his time for an interview, and showed control in a situation that would have paralyzed most of today's "men". He gets cred from me.
The guy is obviously goofing around, scored his time for an interview, and showed control in a situation that would have paralyzed most of today's "men". He gets cred from me.
Yeah, it's just.. pathetic.
She's hot, sure, has a great rack, but it's like these guys think of her as royalty. Correction, it's not like - they do think of her as royalty. I'm not going to ever understand celebrity worship, I imagine.
She's hot, sure, has a great rack, but it's like these guys think of her as royalty. Correction, it's not like - they do think of her as royalty. I'm not going to ever understand celebrity worship, I imagine.
Oh, I know she has flaws, just as every person does. But that doesn't say anything about her true character.Plutoman said:
You guys interpret this how you like
Just saying, you might want to listen to me on this one. You just might.Naughty Ninja
Banned
I would've gotten thrown out of that interview in two minutes after I told her I'd actually requested a date with Jennifer Love Hewitt.
Then asked her if she was really a virgin and then told her: "Yeah, I hear that. I used to be one of those."
Anything to break balls.
The dude gave dweebs "hope" everywhere.
He had fruity movements (most likely nerves), and talked too softly.
The chick seemed like she was just going through the motions for the show.
I've heard of her name but didn't know what the hell she did.
Since she said she's in NY. I would've asked her what she thought of hipsters and then told her I thought they dressed like gypsies.
I'd have basically used her as a prop to trollololol the whole thing and have people going at me in the comments section for the hell of it.
Then asked her if she was really a virgin and then told her: "Yeah, I hear that. I used to be one of those."
Anything to break balls.
The dude gave dweebs "hope" everywhere.
He had fruity movements (most likely nerves), and talked too softly.
The chick seemed like she was just going through the motions for the show.
I've heard of her name but didn't know what the hell she did.
Since she said she's in NY. I would've asked her what she thought of hipsters and then told her I thought they dressed like gypsies.
I'd have basically used her as a prop to trollololol the whole thing and have people going at me in the comments section for the hell of it.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
It was just an interview and the guy looked and acted like a gay guy to me...so of course she wouldn't be that into him...he didn't have any real masculine energy...but i gotta say he has a good sense of humor and gave a great interview IMO...i thought he was pretty funny and the girl seemed to lack a good sense of humor.....she was just kind of going through the motions...she could have lightened up a little and laughed more...the guy gives a good interview, though..it's not easy to interview like that and make it funny when the cameras are rolling like that...props to him...but as far as attracting women...his body language and tonality screams gay guy....
And the commentors on the youtube page are all little bi%ches.....
And the commentors on the youtube page are all little bi%ches.....
I think her thought process was that she was so unattracted to him that she didn't want to lead him on or give him any false hope.zinc4 said:
I see sympathy in her eyes, combined with an incredible number of progressively obvious "not attracted" hints which he is not taking.
Zion
Senior Don Juan
I think she was mostly shocked and confused. I can't say weather what he did was right or wrong , but it certainly was vastly different than what your average guy would say to her.
Also , there was the interview factor. The social pressure. If that interaction would've happened in a private spot , away from cameras , things would've gone down entirely differently.
When he's talking about marriage and whatnot at the end , she's not directing her negative response to him , but to the camera - the public.
Also , there was the interview factor. The social pressure. If that interaction would've happened in a private spot , away from cameras , things would've gone down entirely differently.
When he's talking about marriage and whatnot at the end , she's not directing her negative response to him , but to the camera - the public.
Something just hit me. You know who that guy reminds me of? D1ck Masterson of "men are better than women" fame:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0xoKiH8JJM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0xoKiH8JJM
Darth said:
I just don't see a point in being or acting threatened or repulsed by him....also, the entire segment it's clearly just for laughs and show...besides, every guy she comes across wants to bang her...good looking women need to stop taking themselves so seriously...it would be like me acting repulsed when a fat girl tries to dance with me...
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
VladPatton
Master Don Juan
Couldn't watch that fruitcake hipster past a minute and 10 secs. Gave me douche chills.
sageproduct
Banned
Lololol I remember that guy.Darth said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=XMs_ivNuyH0&NR=1
I think she felt awkward and was just going through the questions to be nice/because she was being "interviewed" but was definitely not impressed by the guy. It was basically a big ass-kissing/idolizing session. I mean, props to him for having the courage to do that - and yeah, he got to talk to her, but he came off like an excited fan and she treated him as such.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.