"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I'm getting pretty good at the whole game, but I always **** SOMETHING up right when I'm close to landing girls. I know what I do right, I just do too much and end up ****ing **** up

Can someone just post a list of stuff not to say/talk about or do.

Because If I get a list of stuff definitely not to do, I will be able to program that into my head. :trouble:


Thanks.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Same here man... I'm close to closing this one girl I think, but I may have been a bit too ****y and confident last time I spoke to her, and I'm worried I may have blown my chances.

A nice list would help, that's for sure.
 

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donjuanapprentice01 said:
Same here man... I'm close to closing this one girl I think, but I may have been a bit too ****y and confident last time I spoke to her, and I'm worried I may have blown my chances.

A nice list would help, that's for sure.
I get close and say something really dumb, and then start saying AFC stuff and getting desperate, instantly killing the desire.

But yea, we need a what not to do list.
 

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S.Y.L said:
I get close and say something really dumb, and then start saying AFC stuff and getting desperate, instantly killing the desire.

But yea, we need a what not to do list.
I have the same problem. This HB9 I was workin on, things were goin great, didn't make a move fast enough, she lost interest, I went AFC and acted desperate, didnt work of course, so I just ended up nexting her. Guess I'll know better next time =/
 

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Same story, except, she could never hang out or anything, so I kept asking her and being desperate lol
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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S.Y.L said:
Same story, except, she could never hang out or anything, so I kept asking her and being desperate lol
Yeah, I pretty much made her ask ME out on a date, but both times I tried to get a day she was busy(no, not "busy" lol). Ended up asking her a couple more times but she probably took it as me being desperate and gave up on it alltogether and just deleted her off my myspace and her number too lol. Oh well, im goin to my best buds startin varsity game, she cheers on the team(im gonna be a freshman in college woot :D), hopefully gonna have a chick there with me to showoff, that'll get her thinkin again haha. Just gonna probably not pay much attention to her, we'll see what happens :p. In the meanwhile I'll just work on approaches, gotta get that approach anxiety down >_<
 

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S.Y.L said:
I'm getting pretty good at the whole game, but I always **** SOMETHING up right when I'm close to landing girls. I know what I do right, I just do too much and end up ****ing **** up

Can someone just post a list of stuff not to say/talk about or do.

Because If I get a list of stuff definitely not to do, I will be able to program that into my head. :trouble:


Thanks.
Its pretty simple. Everything you did to attract her was part of your "game"...the "game" never ends. You MUST keep it up the whole time you are talking with her or around her. The second you become "nice guy", its all over. So yeah, the idea of bringing an even hotter girl around her and ignoring her is a great one. If the girl is really hot, I guarantee that chic will go out of her way to come meet your new companion to find out why she is with you.
 

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yeah if I would have known about morning dates I would have banged this chic she was seriously smokin and was some attention seeking flirty chick..check out my morning date post
 

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a list of stuff not to say/talk about or do.


I'm sorry.

Are you having fun?

I really like you.

I think you're pretty.

Do you like me?

Why were you talking to that other guy?

Why didn't you call me?

Did you get my message?

Your t!ts are huge!

You're so skinny!

Do you like my car?

Will you go out with me?

I don't know, what do you want to do?

Do you think maybe we could do something sometime?

Allow me to describe in detail my weightlifting routine...

Are you really gonna eat that? It's bad for you. (or any "you're fat" type of comment)

Also, regarding what not to do, don't stare at her t!ts. It sounds obvious, but we all know that when a girl is showing cleavage it is like a magnet for our eyes. Women with nice t!ts, including girlfriends of mine who have told me this, will intentionally let them hang halfway out at a club and then use that as a way to screen guys. Nine out of ten guys will stare straight at the boobs while trying to talk to the girl. The one guy who can look her in the eyes is the one she goes home with.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Bible_Belt said:
Your t!ts are huge!
Actually, I think a friend of mine met his wife this way.
But I agree you generally shouldn't say this.
Just shows there's an exception to every rule.

I also agree you shouldn't stare at their boobs, but it doesn't seem fair that your lady friend lets hers hang out as a trap.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
a list of stuff not to say/talk about or do.


I'm sorry.

Are you having fun?

I really like you.

I think you're pretty.

Do you like me?

Why were you talking to that other guy?

Why didn't you call me?

Did you get my message?


Your t!ts are huge!

You're so skinny!

Do you like my car?

Will you go out with me?

I don't know, what do you want to do?

Do you think maybe we could do something sometime?

Allow me to describe in detail my weightlifting routine...

Are you really gonna eat that? It's bad for you. (or any "you're fat" type of comment)

Also, regarding what not to do, don't stare at her t!ts. It sounds obvious, but we all know that when a girl is showing cleavage it is like a magnet for our eyes. Women with nice t!ts, including girlfriends of mine who have told me this, will intentionally let them hang halfway out at a club and then use that as a way to screen guys. Nine out of ten guys will stare straight at the boobs while trying to talk to the girl. The one guy who can look her in the eyes is the one she goes home with.
This helps, I've done that hahaha
 

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Remember chaps, there is a difference between staring and appreciating. Making a roundways comment about 'how nice your dress shows you off' I've found is a good way to appreciate rather than perv over them.
 

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Yeah, I learn more from my mistakes than I do from anything else I think though.
 

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all these questions and answers wouldn't exist if you do KINO. You should put KINO first, if you get a positive feedback, continuing the KINO will lead you further than if you play this ****y and funny, alpha role, etc etc...its ok to be ****y and funny but keep in mind that KINO will do the job for you. Its also a fast way to know if the girl is interested in you or not.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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If your talking to the chick on the phone or w/e, kinos kinda hard lmao
 

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Bible_Belt said:
Nine out of ten guys will stare straight at the boobs while trying to talk to the girl. The one guy who can look her in the eyes is the one she goes home with.
I don't agree with this, I see chicks pretty much just go home with whoever hits on them the most, regardless of any looking in the eyes.

Are you talking about in a club scene, or a more 1-on-1 kinda scene?

Because the whole 1 guy who looks her in the eyes and goes home with her thing is definately not true for the club scene.
Not in my area anyway, you can just walk up to some chick, stare at her tits, and say "sup sexy?" and she'll most likely wind up blowin' you that night.
 

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Never ask interview questions:
where are you from
what do you do
what is your major
HOw's your meal?

Talk about surroundings and tell stories.
That guy looks kind of funny.
Your dress looks nice.

Ask her opinion on things.
 

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Yea what Bible Belt said. Try to stay away from a lot of questions, make statements instead. Questions make you look weak, you're asking for her approval. Not the kind of frame you want to establish. Some questions are ok but at least make them interesting or ask qualyfying quetions. "I like a girl that can cook. What's the best dish you can make?"

Stay away form closed-ended questions, questions that can be answered with a yes or no.

It's not what you say rather it's what you DON"T say.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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