"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What my life has been up to this point

Locster

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I am about to graduate from high school heading out to college pretty soon. I have just realized that I've wasted my whole life since my life has been nothing up to this point. I think im the biggest loser when it comes to women in this forum, im not even an AFC since Ive never flirted with a woman in my life, I dont even remember the last time I had an informal conversation with a girl.

I started searching for a way to become better with women more than 2 years ago. I started by reading David Deangelo and other dating gurus but I fell in into beleiving that I needed to know everything I could about women before actually trying to get with them. I then found this forum, read the DJ Bible and countless other post for a while. I tried to do some bootcamps but I was just afraid. The problem was that I never took action and just read this forum everyday. Being unsocial also didnt help. I need help just figuring out where to start in my journey to becoming a better man. I dont want to head out into the real world like this. I dont want to waste my college experience like I did with high school. Reading books and posts doesnt seem to be working, I need to figure out a way to actually do something. Any help would be appreciated.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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BOWIE

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Are you looking for someone to tell you to get off your ass? It sounds like you haven't made any effort other than reading and posting.
My best advice would be to hang around guys that meet checks. You'll have plenty of opportunity to learn.
 

KoalaKing

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"HAVING ALL OF THE KNOWLEDGE IN THE WORLD IS USELESS TO YOU IF YOU DON'T EVER USE IT"

If I were you I would approach the hottest babes on the checkouts at the supermarket that you go to and talk to them, they can't reject you because you are a customer, compliment them on something that you like about them, try to speak as confidently as you can, use strong body language, look the girls straight in the eyes, you only have to do this for a couple of minutes each time, the next time that you see the girl look at her response, you should be able to work out if she likes you or not, this is the easiest way that I know about, but if you never say anything to them then you will just always remain an AFC which is a tragic existence. :cool:
 

MrCode

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Don't feel bad, you are starting very young compared to a lot of us.

First things first: you realize you've been a keyboard jockey, reading, reading and reading but never acting. Knowing you have a problem is the first step to solving it. Plus don't worry you aren't alone, many guys have the same "I must become an expert before trying" mentality. I use to as well, but at some point you just have man up and take some action.

How do you start? Well how do you start taking a long walk? You take the first step. How do you start a long four years of college? You take your first class. How do you start becoming a real Don Juan? You start talking to chics. It really isn't rocket science and you must embrace failure, because nothing teaches as well as mistakes.

The boot camp is a nice structured way for you to start, because I'm sure you are too scared to really start approaching chics. So do the bootcamp, and start being more social.

I use to be the quiet shy guy in the corner, but now I can make myself at home and comfortable around just about anyone. Today alone I had several nice conversations with people I had just met. A lot of people are really cool and everyone can teach you something if you let them.
 
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