"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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What maturity taught that youth didn't

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I personally love to stimulate my mind, and evolve every chance I get, so I observe life and its lesson. Since this is the mature room, what are some things that you think you have learned in your olders years that you just didnt know as a youth or ways in which you have changed the way you think.

things I've learned

When I was younger, I didnt hold my tongue, but have learned that in life for your own benefit you have to hold your tongue and use wisdom. I can "yes sir, no sir Mr officer" with the best of them.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I am a much better judge of character now in ways I could never understand in my youth. I can 'read' people now and get an accurate enough estimation of them from their behaviors, words and appearance. That may sound like I'm sterotyping, but is more like making estimations of predictability and I'm much more accurate now and adjust my approach to them accordingly.

In my youth I would never dream of being presumptuous with people since I believed in the myth of not wanting to be 'shallow', but I know that's all horsesh!t now. I got screwed over (and screwed myself over) enough times in work, personal relations and with women to learn from the experience that it's OK to go with your impression of someone. It doesn't make you shallow, it makes you prudent and a better judge of character.
 

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older women.........

Well,

I have found out, as I have grown older, that:

1....99% of all women are materialistic. ie. they will make payments on a Lexus instead of paying cash for a smaller auto.

2....99% of all women 'drown in a glass of water'. ie. You buy a green shirt, but, you should have bought the blue one. You buy a blue car, but, you should have bought the green one.

3....99% of all women are looking for the 'perfect' man----(he ain't out there)

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Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi
I am a much better judge of character now in ways I could never understand in my youth. I can 'read' people now and get an accurate enough estimation of them from their behaviors, words and appearance. That may sound like I'm sterotyping, but is more like making estimations of predictability and I'm much more accurate now and adjust my approach to them accordingly.

In my youth I would never dream of being presumptuous with people since I believed in the myth of not wanting to be 'shallow', but I know that's all horsesh!t now. I got screwed over (and screwed myself over) enough times in work, personal relations and with women to learn from the experience that it's OK to go with your impression of someone. It doesn't make you shallow, it makes you prudent and a better judge of character.
I can agree with this one also. As I get older I also have learned to go with my gut as the saying goes. Ignoring that first voice has gotten me in trouble a lot as a youth, so I have learned to listen to it.
 

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The truth of the matter is, older guys have already made the stupid mistakes (and hopefully learned from them) the younger ones haven't had time to get around to yet!
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Guys,

I haven't posted here until lately. But I'd like to take a crack at it.

When I was young, I failed to see where taking short cuts could possibly lead you. School, relationships, and myself. The end justified the mean. In everything it seemed.

When I matured, by not taking short cuts I realize you only get out off something what you put in. Trying harder. Not running from responsibility & accountability like so many my age of 31 and older, but knuckling up and turning to face it....
 

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Originally posted by Rollo
Guys,

I haven't posted here until lately. But I'd like to take a crack at it.

When I was young, I failed to see where taking short cuts could possibly lead you. School, relationships, and myself. The end justified the mean. In everything it seemed.

When I matured, by not taking short cuts I realize you only get out off something what you put in. Trying harder. Not running from responsibility & accountability like so many my age of 31 and older, but knuckling up and turning to face it....
I felt this post in my soul. Good life lesson!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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1.that you sometimes have tocheat your way through sertain things or you get left behinde, only the fittest survive. being a scared goody 2 shoe's cost me somethings eg(school,girls, people and work in general) time waits for no one.

2. that not all women like confident guys.

3.sex wasnt all its hyped up to be.

4.dont put any fate on a human.

6.not to care what other people thought of me, guys have called me gay because their girl wanted me,i realised that the socalled tough jocks are the most insecure.

5. dont be nice with everybody except those you show u kindness 1st.

6. never pay attenshion to what a woman says, because they dont know what they want and will never know, listening to them will only mislead you.
 

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"1.that you sometimes have to cheat your way through sertain things..."

Uhm----OK, but I thought the question was about "maturity", which usually entails something called "ethics"!!
 
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