"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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What it looks like to spin plates

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Here is a screen cap I took last night.

http://i.imgur.com/7mEhjes.png

Long story short, a girl I was seeing was pushing the limit and I had to walk out on her.
It came down to this:
Her: "If you don't give my friend a ride to her BFs house, I'm not going with you either."
Me: "Are you sure about that?"
Her: "Yes."
Me: "Ok, then. Peace."
(btw, if you don't know: driving a girl to her BFs house means driving to like 8 places and getting lost for several hours.)

I was almost sad, but mostly just feeling like "damnit, why are girls so dumb."
then she texted me saying "Never talk to me again"
then this other girl texted me and all I could do was be like
"nice."

The lesson is there is no security. You should always have a girl on backup, if not on the side. or several. You never know what a girl is gonna throw at you, and it's so much easier to walk away when you have other girls.

A year ago I probably would have been on this girls front porch saying "Katie, i'm sorry, let's talk about it."
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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This is great.
You shouldn't have to be her ***** and give her friends rides around anyways. I bet you in a week or less she will be crawling up your ass trying to get you to talk to her again.
 

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What a cvnt. Girls that throw such ultimatums aren't the best to deal with. It's always a good idea to have at least two or three girls in rotation. That way, you have one to fall back on. Always be aware that it could end at any point and never be afraid of rejection or getting dumped. Getting over that fear is half the battle.
 

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you should have asked them to both give you head in return for the ride
 

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Lol that's awesome.

And exactly why spinning plates is best.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Since you decided to post this, if you are up for it, you could make a nice demonstration to the group what happens when you go NC after something like this happens.

Let us know when she comes back pining for your attention, please? Lol

Because she will. They usually do anyway and, in this case, her friend was probably egging her on so the decision to dump you was undoubtedly a group decision.
 

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Starfvcks 64 said:
(btw, if you don't know: driving a girl to her BFs house means driving to like 8 places and getting lost for several hours.)
This is gold. Wow. LOL

Fortunately I don't experience this much any longer.

Don_Dom said:
Since you decided to post this, if you are up for it, you could make a nice demonstration to the group what happens when you go NC after something like this happens.

Let us know when she comes back pining for your attention, please? Lol

Because she will. They usually do anyway and, in this case, her friend was probably egging her on so the decision to dump you was undoubtedly a group decision.
THIS. Go NC and keep us posted. The girl is being a manipulative brat. Don't feed her ego.
 

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Excellent OP. If I must add something - a nice "go FVCK yourself" to her would of gone down well.

I agree that she'll come back, & when she does DEFINITELY keep us posted. :up:
 

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adam225 said:
Excellent OP. If I must add something - a nice "go FVCK yourself" to her would of gone down well.
Oh no, no. Silence always works so much better with women. What they create in their own minds is so much more than what we could put into words. :D
 

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Don_Dom said:
Since you decided to post this, if you are up for it, you could make a nice demonstration to the group what happens when you go NC after something like this happens.

Let us know when she comes back pining for your attention, please? Lol

Because she will. They usually do anyway and, in this case, her friend was probably egging her on so the decision to dump you was undoubtedly a group decision.
Yea I was thinking that. It'll probably be four to five days before she texts me back, we'll see.

Vice
You know how it is. They always have to give feedback on how you drive too and the "wtf is this music? don't you have anything good?"
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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sylvester the cat said:
Oh no, no. Silence always works so much better with women. What they create in their own minds is so much more than what we could put into words. :D
Believe me, i agree. I'd just get great pleasure out of saying it to her then going complete NC - Specially on a brat like this.
 

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adam225 said:
Believe me, i agree. I'd just get great pleasure out of saying it to her then going complete NC - Specially on a brat like this.
Why? These types of situations are perfect for spinning into FWB arrangements. When they come back they pretty much hand you the frame and admit they like you too much to leave you. You can either keep dating them if you want, or try for making her a FB if you want. Either way, she's less likely to pitch little tantrums and demand stupid crap that her friends put her up to again. It's a win win win.

But that's not going to happen if you slap the back of her head and throw insults at her on the way out the door like a poop flinging monkey. Simple NC is the way to go.

Think, McFly.

There is nothing to be gained by arguing women, much less telling them off. Only do it for the satisfaction once you have decided that you don't care to see them anymore. The OP said he liked this one, he just wasn't going to indulge her tantrum. He's handling it perfectly.
 

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Don_Dom said:
Why? These types of situations are perfect for spinning into FWB arrangements. When they come back they pretty much hand you the frame and admit they like you too much to leave you. You can either keep dating them if you want, or try for making her a FB if you want. Either way, she's less likely to pitch little tantrums and demand stupid crap that her friends put her up to again. It's a win win win.

But that's not going to happen if you slap the back of her head and throw insults at her on the way out the door like a poop flinging monkey. Simple NC is the way to go.

Think, McFly.

There is nothing to be gained by arguing women, much less telling them off. Only do it for the satisfaction once you have decided that you don't care to see them anymore. The OP said he liked this one, he just wasn't going to indulge her tantrum. He's handling it perfectly.
Each to their own I guess. If a friend or someone I knew treated me in such a disrespectful way I'd certainly tell them to "go fvck themselves" so I can't see why I wouldn't with a women. This isn't about arguing, it's about telling her to "fvck off" (speaking your mind) and then moving on.

Either way, I simply wouldn't want her back after this, she has basically just told you that she isn't worth bothering with.. You're suppose to be a "DJ" not a desperate idiot. Only a desperate idiot would waste another moment of their time on such low quality crap. I rather hire a prostitute than lower myself to the level of a brat like this... In fact, I see them as being worse than a prostitute.... hahaha.
 

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adam225 said:
Believe me, i agree. I'd just get great pleasure out of saying it to her then going complete NC - Specially on a brat like this.
NOOO!! Trust us. Don't say anything. Just go complete NC and never talk to her if you see her. Try to be seen with other women too. It will drive her nuts that a guy didn't succumb to her wishes. She's probably used to it. If she does contact you, only get back with her on your terms. Then you can tell her specifically what she did wrong and how you won't take that sort of nonsense from her again.
 

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"These types of situations are perfect for spinning into FWB arrangements."
That's pretty much what we already had. I prefer to think of girls as "plates" because we go on dates and shlt sometimes too, but i wouldn't have called her my GF in a thousand years. She asked and I told her I didn't want anything serious. It's better than FWB in my opinion. She won't have problems finding other guys to fvck, but she will have a hell of a time finding a replacement for me.

I can't predict the future but if she does hit me up again, the plan is to ignore her for a decent length of time until I have reason to see her again. Like I said, I gave her a fair chance to correct a problem a few months back and it worked out, but this was her last chance.

BEST CASE scenario: i'm in her town and need a place to crash. I hit her up, we fvck and that's that.
WORST CASE: i never talk to her again.

Both of those options are fine for me.

The one bad thing about all this is that she gave really good head, and that is a valuable skill a lot of girls don't have.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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El Payaso said:
NOOO!! Trust us. Don't say anything. Just go complete NC and never talk to her if you see her. Try to be seen with other women too. It will drive her nuts that a guy didn't succumb to her wishes. She's probably used to it. If she does contact you, only get back with her on your terms. Then you can tell her specifically what she did wrong and how you won't take that sort of nonsense from her again.
LOL, I know... trust me. We've all got different ways of dealing with this kind of stuff and what we want the outcome to be. It's not a case of right or wrong, it's more a case of being true to yourself and dealing with it appropriately. To me it's more about self respect than keeping her as a fvck buddy. I'd rather w@nk in a sock than even look at a brat like this... honestly, I can't stand them.

If she came back I'd simple keep being rude & straight to the point with her until she left me alone. This way at least she'll learn & you'll be help her next AFC out.

OP, just take a dump in a bag and post it through her letter box... :up:
 

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adam225 said:
LOL, I know... trust me. We've all got different ways of dealing with this kind of stuff and what we want the outcome to be. It's not a case of right or wrong, it's more a case of being true to yourself and dealing with it appropriately. To me it's more about self respect than keeping her as a fvck buddy. I'd rather w@nk in a sock than even look at a brat like this... honestly, I can't stand them.

If she came back I'd simple keep being rude & straight to the point with her until she left me alone. This way at least she'll learn & you'll be help her next AFC out.

OP, just take a dump in a bag and post it through her letter box... :up:
I guess so. She will forever respect and fear him if he never even pays her one word. Lol. Girls can be a hilarious bunch. They crave attention and validation and when they've been bad girls, they will try to fix it at any cost.
 

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Beauty.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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