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What is your view of Corey Wayne? It is preferred that you have read his book

Milano

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I like his book and most of his youtube videos. I feel that it has a pretty straight forward strategy regarding dating that seems reasonable and is a good way for a noob to start. Im sure some of you have read and know about his book and teachings from youtube. What do you think about him and his philosophy?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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His stuff is okay.

He presents it in a very presentable manner and his videos are pretty solid for starting out. I would honestly recommend starting with "The Rationale Male" and "The Book of Pook" and then "The way of the superior man"...

My question: What do you do with these books when a plate is over? I left them out and my plate asked me about them...
 
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Generic, recycled material with a goofy happy face and a $1,000 per hour price tag. Guy calls himself a "life coach". These are regular Joes and Jane's without any degrees or credentials teaching about psychology with new age, motivational cliches.

Guy is a total snake oil salesman and I'm not sure why he keeps coming up here. You can get better than his material here on this forum.

At least Neil Strauss and Mystery wrote about this stuff when "game" was relatively new to the masses.
 

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Well, he is doing what he loves to do while earning money from it. My point is that that the book is easy to read and although not perfect it has some nice details for starters.

His stuff is okay.

He presents it in a very presentable manner and his videos are pretty solid for starting out. I would honestly recommend starting with "The Rationale Male" and "The Book of Pook" and then "The way of the superior man"...

My question: What do you do with these books when a plate is over? I left them out and my plate asked me about them...
I dont like to have them around cause I just dont think it leaves a good first impression. If you have many books around and it is one of many others it wouldnt be a problem but if its among the only ones you have it looks worse. Its like if you had one book on your desk that was called "how to be good in bed", it is easy to think that you NEED to improve and it could be a turn off. Probably not a big deal but I just dont want to put any ideas into their heads, even though one should just think that this guy cares about improving himself.

The way of the superior man is a nice book but hard to read when the author decides to substitute any words that could be of ANY offensive nature to please the feminists by using "love" every god damn sentence. The message is still good however. Need to read the others. Sperm wars is also one that is mentioned in the community
 

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Ya. I should have put them away. I had all 3 stacked on my night stand when she came over. Rational male, 3% man, and way of the superior man. Needless to say, she looked them up and asked her friend about it. Haha
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I never really liked him. I once tried his method of telling a girl "i'm not going to be friends with you, if you want to continue dating we can do that though."

It didn't work.

So yeah I'm not a big fan of these relationship gurus.. I think the focus should be on improving yourself in terms of looks, build, hobbies, attitude, and intellectual pursuits, and go after women who like you back genuinely enjoy your company and won't give you headaches.
Some of the things he says are tantamount to relationship suicide. He talks about "romance" a lot. But "romance" only works if you're a ruthless bastard like Christian Grey and she feels like she's drawing an elusive notion of romance out of you. Romance works in doses for the "3% man" he's talking about.

For the other 97%, going for "romance" with a girl is a total disaster waiting to happen.

And "hang out, have fun, hookup" isn't exactly world beating stuff worth $1,000 an hour. These life coaches are a joke.
 

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Some of the things he says are tantamount to relationship suicide. He talks about "romance" a lot. But "romance" only works if you're a ruthless bastard like Christian Grey and she feels like she's drawing an elusive notion of romance out of you. Romance works in doses for the "3% man" he's talking about.

For the other 97%, going for "romance" with a girl is a total disaster waiting to happen.

And "hang out, have fun, hookup" isn't exactly world beating stuff worth $1,000 an hour. These life coaches are a joke.
The guy gives out all his generic advice on youtube and dudes are going to pay 1000 bucks to hear it again instead of just putting his videos on repeat? lol
 

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There s so much better material here. Search Sir chancealot Senor Fingers. Antidump if yr an LTR guy etc.
 

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Corey Wayne is one of the best youtube dating coaches. I've listened to just about all of his material twice and also donated, though I wouldn't spend $500 an hour for a personal lesson.

When my relationship endured one absence and one breakup over the past 6 months, it was mostly Corey Wayne's material that kept me on the right track to getting back together. His videos on The Power of Walking Away are probably his best.

 
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He's not to bad. I wouldn't say the best, but it's certainly a good place to start out if you are a complete novice. The video and book helped me along the way.

One thing he promotes which I am absolutely on board with is repetition and perseverance. I wouldn't say you have to read one book 10 times. But certainly if you want to make dramatic changes in a particular area, you need to stick at it, for years and years. I see some guys on this site who think they have all the answers and clearly don't. Because their own experience and education have not been varied nor extensive enough.

Corey Waynes outlook is essentially no different to those of most others; that being generally, care less, dont over pursue women, go about life regardless. Not many people would or should question any of those ideals.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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The main thing I have against all of these guys is they aren't science based. Human communications socialisation and mating has been studied extensively. There's a pile of books on these topics based on the science.

Now I hear you say but I want to hear from experienced guys. Well you're sitting in a big pile of that. So suave has tips and tricks and field reports from thousands of guys.

Pro tip age and location do matter. So find a couple of senior DJ's here who are about your age and from your city and look at their back posts. As usual my way is a bit of work. So u could just trust some random guy from YouTube who big notes himself as coach and looks like he's storing acorns in his cheeks.
 

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He teaches the basics well, for a noob there is a lot worse out there.

My only problem he preaches an inflexible style, you have to know when to NOT use "the rules" so to speak.

If you follow his stuff you won't embarrass yourself though.
 

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I find most of his stuff helpful, and yes much of it for many of us here are pretty basic, but thats a good thing for people just learning this stuff, and also for others to not forget the basics. So, as Inferno put it previously, I dont think you would embarrass yourself using his stuff.
 

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Corey Wayne is one of the best youtube dating coaches. I've listened to just about all of his material twice and also donated, though I wouldn't spend $500 an hour for a personal lesson.

When my relationship endured one absence and one breakup over the past 6 months, it was mostly Corey Wayne's material that kept me on the right track to getting back together. His videos on The Power of Walking Away are probably his best.

I agree, this also helped me through my first breakup.
 

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His stuff on inner game and things like not chasing women are correct, but they are very basic concepts. IMO he is overrated and charging a lot for advice that can be found for free at places like rationalmale, girlschase, and this forum.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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He's telling you what you want to hear.
If what he said came true (walking away increased her interest level and she came back, and she started falling in love right around the 3-4 month mark), saying he told me what I wanted to hear is not an argument. Further, he doesn't tell people what they want to hear when he says "You turn and walk away and never look back, and if she is interested she will reach out, but if her interest level was below 50%, she isn't ever coming back". That was tough to face but I waited nearly 2 weeks and (more than one girl) did come back.
 

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How can ppl justify spending 1k like that? Simply work on your mind body and soul and more importantly put yourself in advantageous postions to meet women and you will actually start to "accidentally" get laid
 

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How can ppl justify spending 1k like that? Simply work on your mind body and soul and more importantly put yourself in advantageous postions to meet women and you will actually start to "accidentally" get laid
Dont spend the 1k, simply watch his videos for free and you will get tons of his info.
 

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I find his stuff boring and passive.
This.

He wrote an almost 300 page book that could have been 50 pages. It's filled with anecdotal stories from his life when he was once 'beta'. There is nothing wrong with parable... but Jesus Christ, make it entertaining.

There really is nothing unique in his content. It is simply Doc Love, Book of Pook, and Rational Male. Or Doc Love + sex, without any real philosophy behind it. What he sells is good advice typically, except when he starts this relationship BS. Trying to figure out how to make women stay with you, but this is where the money is. You have a bunch for fvcking clueless dudes willing to pay him to get what is available for free in the Book of Pook. But really this is what life coaches do... they are a voice behind you tell those with no self discipline to get off their @sses.

I will say that Wayne's stuff is free, you can get his book at no cost, and his videos are available online. All you lose is time to consume it. Just read and watch it with the understanding that he is is boring as hell, and you have to wade though a mountain of chick-like BS to get to stuff that really will help you.
 

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No, no, no, no, no.

Hide your sh*t.

Had a plate last year follow my Youtube history to find lots of MGTOW videos. The cognitive dissonance is unnecessary. And it was one of the first things she brought up when I dumped her.

They don't forget.
Gotta agree here! No good comes of women knowing you read this material.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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