What is your opinion - Option 1 or Option 2

[narcissist]

New questions to answer for this discussion:



Do you guys think it is possible to get to a point where we can ultimately not be affected by jealousy and envy of another man chilling/possibly fvcking a girl in our plate arsenal?

If so, shouldn't we all get to that golden point so we can all choose option 1 without being affected?

Because obviously having more plates is better, and the progressive accumulation of more options clearly reduces scarcity.

So I believe it may be in our best interest to chase after that golden zone of non-attachment/non-affectivity, where we are like an emotional brick wall unable to collapse from a measly woman.


Let me know what you guys think

 

[Turuwal]

Do you guys think it is possible to get to a point where we can ultimately not be affected by jealousy and envy of another man chilling/possibly fvcking a girl in our plate arsenal?

Yes it is possible. It took me around a year after ditching a monogamous five year relationship to enter my first open relationship. It took me a year after that to be able to tell my plates that I expect them to hook up with other guys and actually know they are doing it.

I should note however that the intervening year contained quite a bit of primary research into polyamory.

What are the benefits? You can set ANY frame you want with your plates and they will accept it without question. Your plates will literally fall in love with you and do anything and everything to keep you.

But most importantly, you will gain a true understanding into the nature of women and sexuality that goes way beyond any theory you may have read. Like when you realise that a quality woman is not one who won't sleep around, but is in reality one who will keep it discreet and not get jealous when you do it as well.

 

[narcissist]

I actually quite agree with the notion of polyamory, and have been looking into its benefits.

It is a very interesting point of view for relationships and I think im going to ditch the whole monogamous notion.


I believe that you are right with the ideology that polyamory may in fact eradicate jealousy and envy, and help reach a point of not being bothered by the inevitable attraction the women you are spinning will have for other guys. Ultimately allowing a man to choose option 1 without ANY emotional turmoil.


I have a question for you though Turuwal. How hard is it to make the paradigm transition from monogamy to polyamory?

 

[Turuwal]

I have a question for you though Turuwal. How hard is it to make the paradigm transition from monogamy to polyamory?

It is not hard, but it does take time. In my case it took me two years to make the full transition.

In my opinion there are two aspects to making the transition: the logical and the emotional.

Logically, you should read the literature pertaining to human sexuality, psychology and genetics. This is contained in books like Sex at Dawn, Sperm Wars, The Selfish Gene, Origin of the Species, The Manipulated Man, 48 Laws of Power, and in the collective stories of the men who have travelled the path before.

Emotionally, you should spend as much time in the field as possible looking for the evidence of things you have read about and putting the lessons into action. Eventually you will start to see these things and will be no longer able to ignore them. You will also learn that jealousy is just another emotion that you must push through and defeat.

When your logical mind and emotional mind start to align, you will realise that there is no other rational choice.

 

[SgtSplacker]

Option 1 of course. Option 2 gains you nothing. Of course if you have frame control problems you might want option 2 just to limit yourself.

Here are my current (m)ltr conditions.

"You can do anything you want, with anyone you want, as long as you are not trying to make me jealous. When you are with me, if there is something I won't like you shouldn't do it, and if there is something I will like you should do it."

I'll probably drop the jealousy condition once I have become immune to it.

The only rule I keep in relationships is fairness and honesty. <== and that's it.

I don't give a squat what she does as long as things are fair and honest and I can do the same. I feel that being a man gives you an edge in this type of scenario, and i'll explain why.

First off you can't do this with a skank because she's just going to bang everyone she can. So lets just say you are not dating a total wh0re here. And that she doesn't have access to the same social circles a wh0re has access to. First thing is that you know i'm going to hit that the day of her date or the day before for sure. I'll make plans with her right after, have her come over to my place for some banging that night. I'm sure she'll want to reinforce my attractions for her after I throw her out there like a steak to the wolves. If she comes over with the coochie a little red I know what's up. So now you are creating a scenario where she would really have to go against her character to bang this guy in a bathroom or something gross, very close to a sloppy seconds scenario. A reasonably decent girl is not going to go for this truck stop style of copulation. At the risk of losing her man that she just got a little more insecure over.

And guess what? you just got an open ticket to take women out now. And believe you me i'll take a BJ in a bathroom gladly on any night. Even better, i'm the one in control the whole date. I'm paying, i'm in control of who i'm with and where were going. So i'm going to play my date card with a girl i'm sure is going to put out because I have every intention of getting laid, unlike her. Heck I can go to the local strip club with my buddies, get a handy and go home happy lol. It's harder for her to do something like this.

So my benefit is two fold, I get laid and make my female jealous and insecure.

win win win

And she gets some bread and salad from Olive Garden with a chump. Because odds are this dude is some kind of orbiter.

Once again I must state that if you are dating a skank this may not be a good idea. If your frame is weak, this is not a good idea. If you are dating a woman that picked YOU up, this is not a good idea. If your girl loves clubbing and bar hopping, not a good idea.