what is wrong with saying "sorry" to women?

[Mahmudul Hasan]

i have seen that many seducers such as chetau heartiste,rollo tomassi etc are against saying sorry to women. i genuinely think that there is nothing wrong or demeaning of yourself in being humble enough to say sorry when you have offended her

 

[corrector]

I guess it just looks weak or unmasculine. It depends on the tone, if it's too supplicating, and how you are overall with her. If you come across strong then it's okay. However, if you are already weak around her, then it might be too supplicating, especially if she provoked you to offend her by disrespect.

 

[BPH]

First off, some will disagree with me, but I wouldn't listen to "seducers", I would listen to people who DON'T make pick-up their entire identity - I think Rollo is corny as hell, haven't even heard of the other guy.

To answer your question, nothing is wrong with saying sorry. What IS wrong is saying sorry when you didn't do anything wrong.

Apologizing when you've genuinely f***ed up is one thing, but that's all it should be; no begging to be taken back, no multiple apologies, and no apologizing just to make her feel better.

People generally view apologizing as a sign of weakness and wrongdoing, so it's not particularly attractive to women when men routinely try to backtrack their natural behavior.

 

[Gamisch]

First off, some will disagree with me, but I wouldn't listen to "seducers", I would listen to people who DON'T make pick-up their entire identity - I think Rollo is corny as hell, haven't even heard of the other guy.

To answer your question, nothing is wrong with saying sorry. What IS wrong is saying sorry when you didn't do anything wrong.

Apologizing when you've genuinely f***ed up is one thing, but that's all it should be; no begging to be taken back, no multiple apologies, and no apologizing just to make her feel better.

People generally view apologizing as a sign of weakness and wrongdoing, so it's not particularly attractive to women when men routinely try to backtrack their natural behavior.

This 100.

All these mantras are BS. You gotta be your authentic self, no matter how you shape this. If you wanna compliment, you compliment..wanna say sorry you say sorry.

Ofcourse you can find a woman who has a manual that says "be unapologetic at ALL times". But imo that's more likely to happen when you are WAY above her AND thus she knows she can never easily replaced.

 

[zekko]

Nothing wrong with apologizing if you've done something wrong, but you don't want to make it a big production. A simple statement, said once, should suffice. No begging, supplicating, or groveling.

Ofcourse you can find a woman who has a manual that says "be unapologetic at ALL times".

I think when manuals say that, they mean be unapologetic about what you want and about going for what you want. Go after what you want as a man, and don't apologize to people for doing it.

 

[Manure Spherian]

i have seen that many seducers such as chetau heartiste,rollo tomassi etc are against saying sorry to women. i genuinely think that there is nothing wrong or demeaning of yourself in being humble enough to say sorry when you have offended her

Aren’t we supposed to say sorry to people when we mistreat them?

Lol at Heartiste and Rollo being models of conduct.

 

[RangerMIke]

First off, some will disagree with me, but I wouldn't listen to "seducers", I would listen to people who DON'T make pick-up their entire identity - I think Rollo is corny as hell, haven't even heard of the other guy.

To answer your question, nothing is wrong with saying sorry. What IS wrong is saying sorry when you didn't do anything wrong.

Apologizing when you've genuinely f***ed up is one thing, but that's all it should be; no begging to be taken back, no multiple apologies, and no apologizing just to make her feel better.

People generally view apologizing as a sign of weakness and wrongdoing, so it's not particularly attractive to women when men routinely try to backtrack their natural behavior.

Agree. If you really did something wrong, and you really regret your actions... apologize. If she accepts your apology, then fine... if she doesn't don't grovel just move on. If she is really interested, she will forgive you, if not... well your actions are just going to be her excuse to get rid of you... take the hint and move on.

 

[sharkfinale]

Women view apologies like certain members of religion of peace views apologies.

'Apology is admission of wrongdoing and must be punished.'

The penalty might not be dealt immediately. But it will be dealt.

In my 3 decades of life, nothing has gone better by apologizing to women. More often than not it has gone for worse.

If apologizing to women works for you, go for it. No need to listen to anyone.

 

[zekko]

Lol at Heartiste and Rollo being models of conduct.

Never liked Heartiste, didn't agree with his philosophy. Rollo was a big admirer of him though.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Never liked Heartiste, didn't agree with his philosophy. Rollo was a big admirer of him though.

He gave a rave review for my favorite men’s book, Sexual Utopia in Power. I liked his review of Blue Valentine. Other than that, I think both are very obnoxious. They’re also both male misandrists.

 

[Clockwerk50]

I agree with everyone here about being accountable with one's actions and apologizing only if you did something wrong. Again, if I person is unattracted to you, they might think you are trying to gather unwarranted sympathy by saying sorry and they might find you pathetic. However, if they are attracted to you they my think is cute, vulnerable, etc.

However, in a grand scheme of things, there is a reason why politicians never apologize. Apologies are often seen as admissions of guilt and can lead to more criticism for public figures, as they confirm the original complaints. Supporters might also feel betrayed, making the apology counterproductive. Overall, apologizing rarely improves one's public image.

 

[zekko]

However, in a grand scheme of things, there is a reason why politicians never apologize.

Politicians, pfft. They will say whatever they need to in order to get elected. I laugh when I hear someone say one is worse than the other, they're all liars. By occupation.

 

[The Diver]

Ex-president Clinton's replaced "Sorry" with
" A mistake has been made". A smooth apology by acknowledging wrongdoing without submissively apologising.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Politicians, pfft. They will say whatever they need to in order to get elected. I laugh when I hear someone say one is worse than the other, they're all liars. By occupation.

I agree. They lack integrity, and their main focus is to get elected in office to collect their next paycheque and get that awesome lobbyist incentive. I guess this caters to how they seduce the masses.

 

[BaronOfHair]

i have seen that many seducers such as chetau heartiste,rollo tomassi etc are against saying sorry to women

They're hardly the first to do so, and this applies to life more generally... Using the words "I'm sorry" makes you look weak. Read Eric Dezenhall and Jeff Pfeffer's words on the subject

i genuinely think that there is nothing wrong or demeaning of yourself in being humble enough to say sorry when you have offended her

Rid yourself of all those who are easily offended, or who refuse to recognize that offense is something taken, rather than given

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

i would think nothing is wrong if the guy made the woman uncomfortable

 

[Vanderdonck]

Nothing if you sincerely mean it.

 

[Bokanovsky]

i have seen that many seducers such as chetau heartiste,rollo tomassi etc are against saying sorry to women. i genuinely think that there is nothing wrong or demeaning of yourself in being humble enough to say sorry when you have offended her

Apologies should be reserved for those times when you know that you have genuinely fvcked up. Women often try to gaslight men and to make them feel guilty (and apologize) for things that are either trivial or aren't their fault. It's a form of manipulation. So yes, you should probably apologize if she catches you having sex with her sister. But you shouldn't apologize over insignificant nonsense.