"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
What is this guy's problem?
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
well i am not chasing after him and i didn't really plan to until my actions were analyzed on here and i started thinking maybe i am insensitive, i am so confused, clearly we are both stubborn and feel we both have too much value, he is stupid and insecure and immature and spoilt and i am too tough because i am insecure and i refuse to let anyone see my weaknesses and vulnerabilities which is why i hit the gym five days a week lifting weights and why i am at the top of my profession where most women would only dream of reaching at 37, it makes me feel more self worth to say. So coming on here and admitting some of these things feels good since no one knows how i really feel. I was dating several guys and i didn't like any of them, never slept with any of them went out on five dates with each of them some chased some didn't and i didn't lie to any of them i simply did not talk about a relationship and just went out and concentrated on getting to know them. but they didn't have the whole package until i met this one and i cleared the another ones off pretty fast, and this was pretty early on before he started playing his stupid immature games. so therein lies the problem, when i meet someone i like that's it, i don't have a plan b or someone in the wings, this is the problem you see.Trump said:
backseatjuan
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The most nicest and the most goodest girl would become the most sluttiest monster in the presence of a man she has a 99% interest in. Nice good girl is a womanise myth that exists in low IL iffity affity lala land. You could be a nice girl to a clingy AFC nice guy that wants to merry you before he meets you. With an exciting Don Juan you can only be a bad girl. That's what we want, a bad girl. You could tell him you was never like this with anyone else if you are having problems with your sl't defence mechanisms.
Perhaps i just don't have what it takes to get this guy, I would rather just be nice and serious and focused on our careers and being responsible and having fun in between. So now i have already called him instead of leaving things alone and now what? I don't want to piss him off his parents know my boss and everyone else in this stupid town.backseatjuan said:
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
You solved your own problem. For whatever reason, you have given this guy the feeling you got no one else, why he is playing you. Instead of analyzing and rationalizing everything, just start dating other guys, he won't be able to do it anymore.sbonney said:
Not sure how you got to the top of your profession and work out so hard, then complain some guy plays head games with you. There is no such things as head things, you are only as faithful as your options.
If these are the kind of women that are posting on SoSuave, then I can totally see why there's an almost universal misogynistic outlook here. Sweetheart, get some self esteem and fvcking move on.
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I agree.Brighty said:
Now can we please end this BS thread? I'm getting tired of the Q and A about this 'problem.' :yawn:
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
VladPatton
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This. While everyone here thinks he's being a player and has game, he's actually instead very mentally and emotionally unstable. Both personalities on paper sound very similar, but in actuality there is a big difference.Bible_Belt said:
LIES. I said he was one or the other. Or both. Most players, douch bags, bad boys, gamers, etc are usually crazy. Just like the sluts, attention *****s, *****es, and manipulators are for men.Sandow said:
And yes, to the other guy - these are the kind of women men on here go for. If not worse. I know the exact type - as should they. Surely they played the nice guy and tried to be the hero - only to have her chase the crazy guy and complain / seek advice.
Either way, this isnt going to go anywhere. Nothing we say is gonna matter. I know these situations all too well to bother sympathizing or advising any further. Both guys and women do this, by the way. I had a bunch of male friends who did the same ****. They all had low self esteem, chased those who didnt really want them, avoided those who did, were fake and insecure, complained about dumb, crazy, shallow *****es, didnt have anything going for them, thought they were badasses. Blah blah. The story is always the same. This is pretty much all they talk about - the same crazy **** they involve themselves in - due to having no lives or self respect, and low self esteem. Always about the drama and chaos.
This girl is a prime target for bullies, jerks, and crazy people. The approval seeking and low self worth is high on this one. Notice how shes more interested in gaining his approval than backing off. "What should I do [to win him over]" is the question being asked. She's already caught up in the BS, over analyzing, asking what strangers on here think of her looks; how she should act, if she should be the nice girl, etc. Its all right there. Thats the problem, as always.
In that sense, the guys on here not only chase after her type - they ARE her type. Crazy *******s. Go to therapy.
All i wanted out of this post is to understand what his wacky behavior was about. I backed away for two weeks, until i read mr. backseat juan's analysis who was spot on and realized that perhaps i was a little too ridiculous with my "i'm not going to chase anyone screw you attitude and he's not going to chase anyone either, we are both successful and have egos so what do you expect. He doesn't need a woman he can buy them and i don't need a man i can buy everything myself. So yes we are all dsyfunctional and screwed up in the head looking for elusive love.