What is the matrix?

[MacAvoy]

I keep seeing references to unplugging from the matrix and I just skip over the thread/post because I don't know what it is. Can someone please give an indepth explanation.

Thanks.

 

[synergy1]

The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work... when you go to church... when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.


Just to throw in the opposing point of view, quoted from the movie as well,
The Matrix isn't real.
I disagree. I think that the Matrix can be more real than this world.

 

[MacAvoy]

...when you pay your taxes

You guys pay taxes? HAHA such fools. I love being me.

 

[RedPill]

'The matrix' is referencing groupthink, and the exploitation of (most) people's willingness to defer to it to form their beliefs and values. It's reactionary consensus, fueled by intellectual laziness. The subconscious rationale of accepting groupthink is "Eh, I'd rather not think about [insert subject matter]. I'll defer to the group consensus to form my values and beliefs. It's just easier that way. If the herd is wrong, hey at least I wasn't the only one."

The matrix is designed to create and define your reality for you by pandering to your natural human inclination toward the path of least resistance. It's reinforced primarily through media, politics, and prevailing cultural norms. In this forum the term is most often used in reference to the dramatic feminizing of Western culture over the last 50 years or so, and the powerful influences which are reinforcing this shift in our culture.

The 'unplugging' and the origin of the term as it's used here are from the 1999 film "The Matrix" and its sequels. If you haven't seen this film, you ought to because - aside from the entertainment value - it might illustrate several common references which are frequently used on this forum.

Since most people in society have their reality defined for them through the collective groupthink that is the matrix, it's difficult to have an open discussion about these ideas in the offline world. Most people are far too ego-invested into the ideals of the matrix, and get heavily offended and defensive at the suggestion that perhaps the reality they've known their whole life is entirely contrived.

 

[synergy1]

You guys pay taxes? HAHA such fools. I love being me.

you don't subscribe to that whole " not paying income taxes" thing do you?

 

[ketostix]

Well I see the matrix as the predominant societal view (group think) + human nature. There's a limit to how far and in what manner you can unplug yourself from the matrix and it be beneficial to you. Going too far woud make you an outcast and a deviant. Not paying your taxes would be an extreme example nonrelated to women. I guess forcing sex with a woman would be an extreme example related to women:nono: .

I would just look at it as the predominate societal force to keep a man at an average or below average level.

 

[rjaudenes]

Not fix your problems.

When problems are not fixed you fell emptiness.

When you choose to fulfill such emptiness with relationships or other stuff other than the solution for your problems you are already inside the Matrix.

Inside the Matrix is when your problems are to begin:

- Those who choose to fulfill woman into emptiness are to become nice guys, AFCs and so on.

Is very simple. It is us who complicate everything and waste time instead of embrace life.

Rafael






Matrix is to choose not live the reality.

 

[squirrels]

I keep seeing references to unplugging from the matrix and I just skip over the thread/post because I don't know what it is. Can someone please give an indepth explanation.

Thanks.

The Matrix is an excuse for 75% of the people in the Mature Man foru to whine.

 

[MacAvoy]

you don't subscribe to that whole " not paying income taxes" thing do you?

I'm legally exempt from paying income taxes.

 

[amoka]

I'm legally exempt from paying income taxes.

Are you disable? Because I would be surprise for not to be paying Tax in CANADA....

 

[Drum&Bass]

Matrix to me means mass influence to get people to spend more money.

Coincidentally it just so happens that making men into pussies and empowering women seems to be the most effective way of doing this.

Matrix is a media disease..take away the media and advertisements and you will GREATLY reduce the amount of people living in the matrix if not Eliminate it.

TV is the plug*

 

[MacAvoy]

Are you disable? Because I would be surprise for not to be paying Tax in CANADA....

Does mentally count? If so, then I think the morality police on this forum would say I'm mentally disabled.

 

[STR8UP]

Matrix is a media disease..take away the media and advertisements and you will GREATLY reduce the amount of people living in the matrix if not Eliminate it.

TV is the plug*

Chicken vs. egg argument in which there IS a clear answer.....media REFLECTS society, it doesn't create it.

It DOES serve to perpetuate it, but consumers only buy WHAT THEY WANT TO. The media is driven by the dollars consumers feed it. Take away the attitudes of the consumers and the MEDIA goes away. This is a simple fact that most people don't grasp because it's so damn easy to put the blame on something else. If you were involved in the cutthroat world of business you would understand how this works.

And don't even start about there being some sort of media conspiracy.

 

[Drum&Bass]

media REFLECTS society, it doesn't create it.

I use to think that were true but observing people and their behavior around me says other wise...where else would trends come from ?? and what do you think would happen to people if television didn't exist ? Media does more than reflect society...It influences peoples ability to think for themselves.

Take away the attitudes of the consumers and the MEDIA goes away. This is a simple fact that most people don't grasp because it's so damn easy to put the blame on something else. If you were involved in the cutthroat world of business you would understand how this works.

I am fully aware of how corporations work and I don't agree with cut throat tactics to make money by any means necessary and at the expensive of hurting people. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize corporations don't care about you or anyone else only money.

and the reason people keep feeding corporations is because they think like you !

It DOES serve to perpetuate it, but consumers only buy WHAT THEY WANT TO.

They don't realize or even care that they are so sucked into the matrix and the mind control of media. its a viscous circle, the media feeds people with propaganda and people think its what they want.

Why don't you tell us the positive things television media has done for you, your life and your needs ?? now think about if television never existed what kind of person would you be ??

And don't even start about there being some sort of media conspiracy.

No conspiracy just clever ways of social programming to make people think they are in control of there thoughts and actions. There is only one purpose for media..to attract the most people possible by any means necessary even if it means flying planes in the WTC..creating subtle behavior patterns in men and women etc...

 

[azanon]

Does mentally count? If so, then I think the morality police on this forum would say I'm mentally disabled.

Any comments so far yet on the answers you were given to your initial question? Or were you just trolling?

 

[Luthor Rex]

Chicken vs. egg argument in which there IS a clear answer.....media REFLECTS society, it doesn't create it.

It DOES serve to perpetuate it, but consumers only buy WHAT THEY WANT TO. The media is driven by the dollars consumers feed it. Take away the attitudes of the consumers and the MEDIA goes away. This is a simple fact that most people don't grasp because it's so damn easy to put the blame on something else. If you were involved in the cutthroat world of business you would understand how this works.

And don't even start about there being some sort of media conspiracy.

This is a very good point STR8UP is making here.

I once read an interview with one of the former heads of Marvel comics (the people that make Spiderman, X-Men, etc.). In the interview he was asked why Marvel doesn't have more 'daring' titles. They have plenty of cash and won't go out of business for trying one or two books that 'push the envelope' so to speak.

His reply? "We do try publishing more challenging books. The problem is no one buys them."

The good thing is we are moving into an age where it's getting easier and easier for people to self-publish. This website is a great example of that. How many men out there, including myself, would be defenseless to the constant onslaught of the Cultural Tyranny of Women if not for this site?

If Western civilization is going to survive, then things will get better.

 

[John-467]

I'm in business, and it's really a combination of the influence of the buyers (consumers) and the sellers (companies).

The sellers want to create and market a product that the consumer would truly value from but they also want that product to have their own BRAND or UNIQUE VALUE PROPOSITION on it, in this fashion, a corporation could create a product, service, program for a consumer that fulfills their needs but now also have the opportunity to put a certain "spin" on it, that not only separates them from competitors but could also ENCHANCE the character or lifestyle of a consumer.

In sales, the most successful company or rep is the one that:

1.) Provides a service, product, program for the customer/consumer that they COULD ASK FOR, that they COULD demand.

COMBINED

2.) With that same in demand service, product, program having a (UNIQUELY CREATED TASTE, SPIN, OR ADDITION) that the consumer COULD NOT THINK TO ASK FOR but would truly value.

When your program, product, or service does BOTH OF THOSE THINGS, you will sell and stay in business for awhile no matter if you sell for Corporate America, Real Estate, TV shows, Films, etc.

 

[John-467]

^^ Using this same understanding, Corporations DO HAVE THE POWER to create different T.V. shows and are NOT AT THE TOTAL mercy of the public.

While it's all together BORING to listen to a church sermon, it's totally EXCITING to watch a fight scene or a death scene, etc.

A T.V. show could cater to the needs of the consumer for "excitement" by having the over theme be about fighting, death, blood etc....but add in the (uniqueness/spin) of having some form of bibilcal character in the film that the audience could look up to and actually start to mimic behind.

A great example of this was the Passion of the Christ.

So yes, it's a combination of both the sellers and the buyers, but quite honestly? The Corporations can and DO HAVE THE POWER to influence the sellers....if they use the above information I just spelled out....this would make them somewhat RESPONSIBLE for not EVOLVING their consumers and putting them in a better place.

I would be a jack azz and poor sales men, if I just left my client with a "product or service" that actually made them WORSE OFF then when I met them (like the fvcked up t.v. shows on t.v.)....I know my client DEMANDED a PARTICULAR SOLUTION to their problem (like a consumer needed excitement on t.v. b/c their lives are boring)....I feel it's my responsibility as a SELLER to give my client WHAT THEY DESIRE w/o fvcking them up.

You can't ASSUME the consumer KNOWS what they need, they know they need something...it's your job as the seller to diagnose that.

 

[STR8UP]

No conspiracy just clever ways of social programming to make people think they are in control of there thoughts and actions. There is only one purpose for media..to attract the most people possible by any means necessary even if it means flying planes in the WTC..creating subtle behavior patterns in men and women etc...

I write t.v. commercials.

When I sit down and write something my one goal, my ONLY goal is to appeal to the needs and desires of my target market.

The second my goal changes, I go out of business.

Fox News? Biased? Or selling to an audience that already has that mindset?

I caught the tail end of a show on feminism the other day. they were interviewing one of the "bigwigs" who was slinging the typical bull$hit. Why does that show exist? Because women buy it.

Nobody has enough money or is stupid enough to waste a bunch of money trying to brainwash people via the media. When media takes on any agenda other than catering to its market, it will soon implode, because at the end of the day every tv show, every movie, every commercial, every magazine ad is dependent upon the revenue generated based upon how well it is received by its audience.

 

[Last Man Standing]

The Matrix is a lie. so embedded into our institutions and lives. intended and in place to keep you from the truth of knowing reality, and have you believe that perception (the LIE) is reality!!!

Here is a perfect example of The Matrix in this thread.....

Chicken vs. egg argument in which there IS a clear answer.....media REFLECTS society, it doesn't create it.

It DOES serve to perpetuate it, but consumers only buy WHAT THEY WANT TO. The media is driven by the dollars consumers feed it. Take away the attitudes of the consumers and the MEDIA goes away. This is a simple fact that most people don't grasp because it's so damn easy to put the blame on something else. If you were involved in the cutthroat world of business you would understand how this works.

And don't even start about there being some sort of media conspiracy.

This is what people spit out because this is what they were told to say!! That the mass media influences and creates reality is obvious by all those who listen to music and watch tv and listen to the radio etc. This forum is a perfect example by the many here embracing the hor and homo as natural and good, when in fact, they are perversions of themselves!!! This is due to the mass media cultural and societal influence of the last 50 years - corrupting minds!!!!

The mass media tells us who and what is beautiful or ugly and who is good and who is bad - they tell us what to wear and what not to wear - what to eat and what drugs to take, what to see, and who to believe and who to not believe - what is true and what is a lie!!! The Matrix is real and the few who own the mass media have an agenda based on a lie - the creators of illusions!!!!!!

It is Mind Control!!!!

Watch this..a warning given to us 30 years ago in a movie called Network... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTN3s2iVKKI