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Actually some of us think that the national education system is a bloated, ineffective excuse for the government interfering with our lives.Nighthawk said:The US has a national education system, does anyone refer to it as 'socialised' education?
No, that is Stalinism.penkitten said:communism is when the government tells you what to do and how to do it without regard to how you feel or how you would vote on it. if you break the rules you can be killed and you are not supposed to leave.
No, that is either a dictatorship or imperialism.think hitler, sadam etc
No, that is either a monarchy or Feudalismalso think kings from the very very old days
No, that is Communalismsocialism is when you choose to be apart of a community that sets rules based on how all of you think and feel is appropriate and then you follow them. you are supposed to be able to leave if you no longer agree with the rules set.
think of hippie communities that each do a job to help out.
also think of lost dharma initiative
also think jim jones
sometimes these socialism places sound the the perfect utopia sort of place, but then it is not what it is all cracked up to be
again think jim jones when he talked everyone to going off to live at the community, then became communist on them and would not let them leave and then made them all die!!
how can that be when you just saidTruman181 said:
stalinism is communist based on what you said.Truman181 said:Communism is a socioeconomic structure that promotes the establishment of a classless, stateless society based on common ownership of the means of production and property in general. It is usually considered to be a branch of socialism, a broad group of social and political ideologies, which draws on the various political and intellectual movements with origins in the work of theorists of the Industrial Revolution and the French Revolution, although socialist historians say they are older.[who?] Communism attempts to offer an alternative to the problems believed to be inherent with capitalist economies and the legacy of imperialism and nationalism. Communism states that the only way to solve these problems would be for the working class, or proletariat, to replace the wealthy bourgeoisie, which is currently the ruling class, in order to establish a peaceful, free society, without classes, or government. The dominant forms of communism, such as Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism and Trotskyism are based on Marxism, but non-Marxist versions of communism (such as Christian communism and anarchist communism) also exist and are growing in importance since the fall of the Soviet Union.
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I believe that most people have not understood exactly what the difference between a social state and socialism is. Socialism understands itself to be a historic truth (see my post above), and a principal element is the abolishment of the free market economy in favor of a planned economy, in which the government sets the prices and supply/demand dynamic.Hooligan Harry said:Communism?
Have a look at what countries provide the best standard of living and quality of life and you will find that it is the socialist countries. They outdo all of Western Europe and the USA according to numerous studies. There are more then a few social indicators that point to this and you consistently see the same countries ranking highly.
Socialism is putting the herd ahead of the individual. Its about trying to limit the wage gap and class gap. In Australia for example, a janitor can own a home and send his kids to college, although his wife will probably need to work. A general manager of a listed company will earn enough for his wife to stay at home, but chances are he is going to live next door to the janitor. There is very little that separates people here. Taxation is high but services provided by Government are generally good. It leads to more equality.