What is the best way to increase your value?

[skinnyguy]

The Brad Pitt and George Clooney comparisons we use are for the most part true. Women will behave very differently around them than the average man. This isn't just due to their looks - in fact it has more to do with their status.

I think many guys are frustrated with how women are dealing with them because they are low value. So I wanted to open up a discussion - how can you increase your value? When you're high value, your confidence goes through the roof and people pick up on it. When you're low value, you're usually talking about how life isn't fair and you never get what you want.

 

[JohnyTheArrow]

You increase your value most when you don't increase at all

You learn how to be badass mind****er and coldminded manipulator and that's all you need, something like Charles Manson on smaller scale, you are like vulture waiting and looking for vunerable and weak minded girls to exploit them.

You could increase your value by becoming millionare but it's more simple to be become skilled manipulator than millionere.You could get great body after years of hard training but its more simple to make girl fall in love with you and keep her in that trance so she eat it, even if you are fat,short or no limbs.You could get great job but its better to bind girl so she stays no matter what.

 

[sylvester the cat]

I think many guys are frustrated with how women are dealing with them because they are low value.

first things first: nobody is low value. we are all high value. just some to choose to believe they are low value whilst others believe they are high value. no doubt depending on how you were brought up. it all comes down to self-respect.

Ways to raise your level of value:

1) expand the mind (education -- not just the kind you get at school but a real knowledge of who and where you are)
2) hone the body (working out)
3) become financially astute

you don't need to be a millionaire to do these things. you can be stacking shelves at a supermarket and be high value. it's all a matter of perception. when you're comfortable in your own skin you will be gold.

 

[.Bing.]

Win the lottery.

first things first: nobody is low value. we are all high value.

You're crazy. A homeless man, a man living in squalor is not high value. Value is measured by your status and looks. Don't buy in to the Pook garbage about being a prize when you're not.

 

[sylvester the cat]

Win the lottery.



You're crazy. A homeless man, a man living in squalor is not high value. Value is measured by your status and looks. Don't buy in to the Pook garbage about being a prize when you're not.

I am crazy yes. but a homeless man living in squalor who believes he is high value AMONGST OTHER HOMELESS PEOPLE in the same condition will get the BJ from the other homeless girls over his peers.

it's all relative.

to you value is status and looks. not to me. intelligence ranks far higher. ask stephen hawking. he's in a wheelchair and still gets laid.

 

[zekko]

first things first: nobody is low value. we are all high value.

That's a nice thing to say, but when you are talking about Sexual Market Value, obviously some guys have more than others. That's why they talk so much about the top 10% or the top 20% here. And the alphas - women find the top dogs desireable. They don't flock to the bottom of the heap.

That said, anyone will have better results if they have a positive attitude and believe in themselves than they will if they are negative and wallow in self pity.

1) expand the mind (education -- not just the kind you get at school but a real knowledge of who and where you are)
2) hone the body (working out)
3) become financially astute

With Pitt and Clooney, it's the looks AND the status, I wouldn't leave the looks part out of it. If you can maximize your looks to the point where it makes a difference for you, so much the better. I don't think every guy can do that, though.

Some can get some of this effect by keeping their body extremely fit or extremely lean or extremely muscular. You can also raise your value by being very good at something, being very skilled. If you can be valued by others by some skill that you have - if you are such a great power forward or musician that you can get a scholarship or if people will pay you to play, for instance, that gives you value.

If you are making more money than your friends, women will pick up on that, too. It may not help you if you are boring, but it's all part of the equation. If you can be financially independent (not relying on others) while maintaining a good lifestyle, that can give you a confidence and sense of self sufficiency that is hard to beat.

If you are a fun guy who has lots of friends, if you have an automatic invite to a lot of parties or events, that can give you value. Point is, there are lots of different ways to have or build value. You may be only good at some, or you may be an all around type of guy. You just have to find the women who appreciate the value that you have, or can get, or that you are working toward.

 

[sylvester the cat]

That's a nice thing to say, but when you are talking about Sexual Market Value, obviously some guys have more than others. That's why they talk so much about the top 10% or the top 20% here. And the alphas - women find the top dogs desireable. They don't flock to the bottom of the heap.

That said, anyone will have better results if they have a positive attitude and believe in themselves than they will if they are negative and wallow in self pity.


With Pitt and Clooney, it's the looks AND the status, I wouldn't leave the looks part out of it. If you can maximize your looks to the point where it makes a difference for you, so much the better. I don't think every guy can do that, though.

Some can get some of this effect by keeping their body extremely fit or extremely lean or extremely muscular. You can also raise your value by being very good at something, being very skilled. If you can be valued by others by some skill that you have - if you are such a great power forward or musician that you can get a scholarship or if people will pay you to play, for instance, that gives you value.

If you are making more money than your friends, women will pick up on that, too. It may not help you if you are boring, but it's all part of the equation. If you can be financially independent (not relying on others) while maintaining a good lifestyle, that can give you a confidence and sense of self sufficiency that is hard to beat.

If you are a fun guy who has lots of friends, if you have an automatic invite to a lot of parties or events, that can give you value. Point is, there are lots of different ways to have or build value. You may be only good at some, or you may be an all around type of guy. You just have to find the women who appreciate the value that you have, or can get, or that you are working toward.

No! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9SEj4_xhn0

There is only one value. Self-respect.

Whether you're homeless or a movie star. Anything else is worthless. Ask Robin Williams. or Tony Scott. or Jim Morrison, jimi Hendrix etc etc

Hell, ask Mick Jagger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vgtY627To8

 

[skinnyguy]

Zekko has a great point - being really good at something. Sometimes that's more important than being rich because a lot of guys with money are boring.

This is essentially why musicians, athletes, artists, and DJ's clean up. Even the ones who aren't paid a **** ton of money have groupies because of their talent.

 

[Eph]

How do you increase your value? Simple, be valuable. Value is relative. If you can get girls into the exclusive type clubs, to that girl, you're pretty valuable. If you know how to play an instrument, cook, or build houses, but you can't get her into the club she wants to go to, or if she isn't into anything of the things you're good at, you are of no value to her.

You can be the most skilled person alive, but if none of it helps the person you're with, you aren't very valuable to them. Every one values different things. For some, it's status, others it's money, and some others it's knowledge/skills.

You should focus on living life, and obtaining a wide array of skills. The more diverse your skillset is, the more valuable you could potentially provide to more people. Value is all about what others are into.

 

[SeymourCake]

The more money you have in your bank account, the more valuable you are.

Money, power and respect.

First you get the money, then you get power...Until then you will be respected.

 

[guru1000]

In order of importance:

1. Seek a board-certified plastic surgeon and fix your facial aesthetic symmetry.
2. Pack on muscle and keep body fat 12% or below.
3. Be overconfident to the point of delusion.
4. Be grandiose or at the very least super-ambitious.

Thank Guru, once your harem comprises 10+ women, all HB9s+.

 

[foreverAFC]

i agree that lifting weights and getting in shape is easiest way a person can boost their value. 95% of people out there look like ****, if you are even just a little bit in shape you will stand out way more. some people may never make lots of money or have a good job, but no matter what you can always hit the gym and your body will respond. you could be a janitor or work in burger king, but if you look like you are in good shape people will think there has to be more to you and women will still like looking at you.

weight lifting and martial arts can be a great outlet for person who is frustrated, let kai greene inspire you ...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c30_1347941963

 

[nismo-4]

Become more attractive with looks, money, and fame. Easier said than done though.

There is a thread about this in the archive by Atom Smasher.

 

[skinnyguy]

Become more attractive with looks, money, and fame. Easier said than done though.

There is a thread about this in the archive by Atom Smasher.

If I were famous for one day, I'd die happy

 

[.Bing.]

I am crazy yes. but a homeless man living in squalor who believes he is high value AMONGST OTHER HOMELESS PEOPLE in the same condition will get the BJ from the other homeless girls over his peers.

it's all relative.

to you value is status and looks. not to me. intelligence ranks far higher. ask stephen hawking. he's in a wheelchair and still gets laid.

He can believe whatever he wants. He won't get a BJ when his value is lower amongst his homlesss peers. Believing in Santa Claus won't get you a present either. Ugly rich men get used by women for their money.

 

[Atom Smasher]

See this older thread that we had stickied for a while:

Ways to Increase Actual and Perceived Value

 

[mikey2012]

Always be willing to walk...

 

[Poon King]

You increase your value most when you don't increase at all

You learn how to be badass mind****er and coldminded manipulator and that's all you need, something like Charles Manson on smaller scale, you are like vulture waiting and looking for vunerable and weak minded girls to exploit them.

You could increase your value by becoming millionare but it's more simple to be become skilled manipulator than millionere.You could get great body after years of hard training but its more simple to make girl fall in love with you and keep her in that trance so she eat it, even if you are fat,short or no limbs.You could get great job but its better to bind girl so she stays no matter what.

There is a lot of truth to this. So much of "value" is perceived in the mind. If you can manipulate a woman to see value where there is none.. then you win. And its easier than spending a lifetime becoming what women want most.

Listed are the basic tricks of con artists. I'm sure you will see the connections to gaming women:

-They give you something for nothing

Chivalry is the dating version of this. The point is to create a feeling of debt or obligation in the other person. Many people part with large sums of money that they had not planned because they had accepted something up front. In dating.. providing a woman with some "connection" or making her believe she needs your help to get something she wants is a good way to pull this off. Does she need a new car? You know someone at the dealership. Does she want a new job? You know a hiring manager in her field. You get the point...

-He makes you like him

Smooth operators spend time up front making themselves likeable to their intended victims. They are often quite heartless in selecting individuals who live alone, cultivating their trust and affection.

-They make you think it's now or never

This is just about the oldest trick in the book. The seller tells you that an offer is good for a limited time only - it's the chance of a lifetime, and supplies are limited. Every high-pressure sale is made in an atmosphere of urgency: hurry, don't wait, don't think, it's a golden opportunity, and you would be a fool to miss it. Your natural impulse is to grab the opportunity.

The dating version of this would be having lots of options and demonstrating that if a woman doesn't do what you want.. you will QUICKLY find one who will. This works best once you have conned her into believing you have value/potential.

"Con" is short for confidence. The con artist's art is making you feel confidence - in him and what he tells you. Con artists get what they want from you by winning your trust and establishing their own credibility in your eyes. They are experts at using your natural impulses and reactions against you.

The secret to maintaining integrity in the game is to keep the appearance of availability - thus feeding her desire for control – while keeping a stable of women so she has no real leverage because you can get the milk from many other cows. Once you have conned enough women.. they will be too busy fight other women over you to notice your deception. The fact that so many women are interested in you gives you credibility as "high value". But in reality you are low value and offer nothing.

This is why value is "all in the mind".

 

[.Bing.]

There is a lot of truth to this. So much of "value" is perceived in the mind. If you can manipulate a woman to see value where there is none.. then you win. And its easier than spending a lifetime becoming what women want most.

Listed are the basic tricks of con artists. I'm sure you will see the connections to gaming women:

-They give you something for nothing

Chivalry is the dating version of this. The point is to create a feeling of debt or obligation in the other person. Many people part with large sums of money that they had not planned because they had accepted something up front. In dating.. providing a woman with some "connection" or making her believe she needs your help to get something she wants is a good way to pull this off. Does she need a new car? You know someone at the dealership. Does she want a new job? You know a hiring manager in her field. You get the point...

-He makes you like him

Smooth operators spend time up front making themselves likeable to their intended victims. They are often quite heartless in selecting individuals who live alone, cultivating their trust and affection.

-They make you think it's now or never

This is just about the oldest trick in the book. The seller tells you that an offer is good for a limited time only - it's the chance of a lifetime, and supplies are limited. Every high-pressure sale is made in an atmosphere of urgency: hurry, don't wait, don't think, it's a golden opportunity, and you would be a fool to miss it. Your natural impulse is to grab the opportunity.

The dating version of this would be having lots of options and demonstrating that if a woman doesn't do what you want.. you will QUICKLY find one who will. This works best once you have conned her into believing you have value/potential.

"Con" is short for confidence. The con artist's art is making you feel confidence - in him and what he tells you. Con artists get what they want from you by winning your trust and establishing their own credibility in your eyes. They are experts at using your natural impulses and reactions against you.

The secret to maintaining integrity in the game is to keep the appearance of availability - thus feeding her desire for control – while keeping a stable of women so she has no real leverage because you can get the milk from many other cows. Once you have conned enough women.. they will be too busy fight other women over you to notice your deception. The fact that so many women are interested in you gives you credibility as "high value". But in reality you are low value and offer nothing.

This is why value is "all in the mind".

Lot of b.s. here. A woman needs to be attracted to you in order for your con to work. Some ugly ass mofo won't pull off any con on a hot woman. The con artist is usually good looking or has a look of value if he has none. That's why these guys can only spin plates short term. They have no value for a long term relationship because they are actually losers.

 

[Poon King]

Lot of b.s. here. A woman needs to be attracted to you in order for your con to work. Some ugly ass mofo won't pull off any con on a hot woman. The con artist is usually good looking or has a look of value if he has none. That's why these guys can only spin plates short term. They have no value for a long term relationship because they are actually losers.

You have a lot to learn if you think a woman has to be attracted to you to date you, f*ck you, or even marry you.

Do you really think Donald Trumps wife is attracted to him? VALUE is the same of the game.. real or perceived.

If your definition of a "loser" is a man who can't (or won't) get into a long-term relationship with a woman.. then you are basically allowing women to dictate what is important in life.

Highly beta mindset. That's some shameful sh!t.