"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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What is the best thing to say if you don't want to talk about work?

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I have been really working hard at being great conversationalist by following lots of self help programs, yet, there are some topics that just brings out negative frame set, and work is one of them, so how do I tell the girl about stopping the the topic, and not get too much deep into it..

I don't mind talking about work, yet there are just so many good thing outside that I just don't see the purpose for inflicting a negative mind set, especially if work is performance related...

Should I just change the girl, if she's too much serious about her career, and not so much about enjoying and having fun...

How do you guys handle, work related conversations?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Does she just talk about herself? Women love to talk about themselves, but theres a certain line to be drawn. If she isn't making any motion to talk about you in the least, then move on.

If she doesn't ask you about your feelings, she's just unloading hers on you and in a sense just using you.
 

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Ya thats

WC2 said:
Does she just talk about herself? Women love to talk about themselves, but theres a certain line to be drawn. If she isn't making any motion to talk about you in the least, then move on.

If she doesn't ask you about your feelings, she's just unloading hers on you and in a sense just using you.
exactly how I feel...

She is from France, and is concerned that her life is become routine, and how she only talks to four people other then me, and how much dedicated she is to her career ambitions, yet nothing is panning out, and somehow only career seem to matter to her,

I'm trying to create fun interaction yet her unwillingness to reciprocate makes me feel even worse, and to make thing worse I got 5 other girls waiting in line after her..

And, I'm like walking fun with my new found Donjuan and player image, I just don't feel like holding back for anyone, yet my old nature of being "nice guy" always lets me down..
 

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Canadien said:
exactly how I feel...

She is from France, and is concerned that her life is become routine, and how she only talks to four people other then me, and how much dedicated she is to her career ambitions, yet nothing is panning out, and somehow only career seem to matter to her,

I'm trying to create fun interaction yet her unwillingness to reciprocate makes me feel even worse, and to make thing worse I got 5 other girls waiting in line after her..

And, I'm like walking fun with my new found Donjuan and player image, I just don't feel like holding back for anyone, yet my old nature of being "nice guy" always lets me down..
That's good that you're shedding your old image. I would give her you best piece of golden advice for her in her job. If she overlooks it or doesn't consider it with much thought, I'd drop her and move onto the next girl. Helping a girl with her career is a good way to bed them. She'll grow attached to you for being her "source" of beneficial information on what to say and what to do in the workplace. Good advice comes from good listening.
 

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Well, I went to a presentation on this topic and El Topo from Mystery's Bootcamp said that you should tell it in a different light than normal. Turn common questions like this into a way to DHVing yourself through STORY:

Ie. If your a mechanic and she asks what you do say something like, "Well when I was a kid I was always taking things apart and was curious about how they worked. I was always taking my dad's power tools apart and he would get mad at me for it blah blah blah....so hear I am today working and taking apart cars, can you believe that?" Use any excuse to build up yourself through stories. Depending on where you are in the interaction, childhood stories are a good way to build comfort, or even DHV by describing your ambition for what you work on.

This question always comes up, answer it in a different way than she's used to hearing.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Canadien said:
exactly how I feel...

She is from France, and is concerned that her life is become routine, and how she only talks to four people other then me, and how much dedicated she is to her career ambitions, yet nothing is panning out, and somehow only career seem to matter to her,

I'm trying to create fun interaction yet her unwillingness to reciprocate makes me feel even worse, and to make thing worse I got 5 other girls waiting in line after her..

And, I'm like walking fun with my new found Donjuan and player image, I just don't feel like holding back for anyone, yet my old nature of being "nice guy" always lets me down..
Sounds like a typical successful wannabe. Not to sound too harsh, but one of my ex's was just like this. Most the time she was very ambitious and wanting to do well, but she never really made it. She wanted to be very successful, but when it came down to it she didn't have the stuff.

What's worse is that these women will talk about it for lengths on end to make themselves feel better about themselves. If she is doing this once in awhile, no problem. But if this is a constant mode of conversation and she doesn't bring you into the equation, again, drop her. No matter how hot or smart a woman is; if she isn't showing interest, she's no good to me.
 
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