That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
The first sentence you sound like a woman. The second sentence would make another man dump his beer on your head and fart in your face. Either way, you're losing.MascaraSnake said:Yeah, buddy, I read your post, and I appreciated it before you began attacking me. Calm the fvck down.
question would this it doesnt matter what they think apply to a LTR or marriage? or do women no matter what forever remain locked in the weird and chaotic world of womanverse and their thoughts forever mean absolutely nothing? i'd like to think by the time they at least become a mother their thoughts hold value or maybe i am wrong? at which point what it is to be a mother greatly confuses me because it seems like with motherhood brings vast wisdom.PlayHer Man said:A woman who rejects you should immediately become a non-entity.
So the right reaction is to immediately move on to the next girl and forget this girl exists.
There are some men who persistently chase women with low interest level and over time "win them over". But a woman you have to sell yourself to is not a woman you want to be with.
Also.. I don't understand why so many men on this site what to "come off a certain way" after a rejection. Why do you give a sh!t what women think in the first place? What women think doesn't matter! A woman can hate your guts and still blow you the next day. Sexual attraction has nothing to do with approval of you as a person.
So men.. STOP giving a sh!t what women "think". It really doesn't matter and never has!
justanothernormalguy said:Its exactly answers like 'I don't tolerate bull****' that will often make the girl think they made the right decision to reject you. I am not saying you would outright say that, but body language and tone can often tell the girl that even if you used the words 'ok i'll see you around'. Its called sulking, and its what children do.
A woman's opinions on the topics of dating, sex, and relationships should be completely ignored. Its not a woman's place to tell a man how to act or how to treat her. Its up the man to decide what she deserves and she can either accept it or reject it.fuzzball said:question would this it doesnt matter what they think apply to a LTR or marriage? or do women no matter what forever remain locked in the weird and chaotic world of womanverse and their thoughts forever mean absolutely nothing? i'd like to think by the time they at least become a mother their thoughts hold value or maybe i am wrong? at which point what it is to be a mother greatly confuses me because it seems like with motherhood brings vast wisdom.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Why would you need to be dismissive? Why not just be polite and move on? Why do you feel the need to attempt to assert how little you give a **** on the girl? It seems to me that sort of thing takes more energy than just genuinely not being feeling phased by it and not reacting at all. Saying 'stand tall', well you should be doing that anyway as its important to have self-worth. Being rejected isn't a reason to start pushing your chest out and beating it like a gorilla.HalfAddict said:Rabba RABBA RABBA THIS IS ****IN RABBATALK.
She isn't interested? Next. Your demeanor should not change at all... as someone said previously she becomes a non-entity. If you are approaching then you are getting rejected it really should feel no different. It's whatever, happens all the time, just be cool man.
You should not tolerate bull****, ain't nobody got time for that..
You are the prize, this is not sulking unless you are walking around with your head down and your tail between your legs. Stand tall, don't be rude, just be dismissive....like I said you have more important **** to be doing than worrying about some ****ing dime a dozen hb six denying you her phone number.
In all honesty she's going to justify her decision in any most likely ridiculous way possible so who gives a **** if he's sulking anyways.. only one way to learn and that's the hard way.
weird and fascinating. they hold valid opinions on a ton of other stuff but never dating and sex. logically it makes 0 sense but i suppose theres no way around that.PlayHer Man said:A woman's opinions on the topics of dating, sex, and relationships should be completely ignored. Its not a woman's place to tell a man how to act or how to treat her. Its up the man to decide what she deserves and she can either accept it or reject it.
Now.. feel free to listen to a woman's opinions on fashion, style, kids, food and any other topic outside of "how men should act". A woman has no idea how a man should act... half the time the behavior that turns her on sexually is behavior she finds offensive mentally.
Listening to women is a big mistake. Just stop doing it and you're see how masculine, strong and sexy you'll feel.
Didn't say their opinions on love, sex and relationships are not valid.. I just said they should be ignored.fuzzball said:weird and fascinating. they hold valid opinions on a ton of other stuff but never dating and sex. logically it makes 0 sense but i suppose theres no way around that.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
ah thanks for the clarification. it seems i was lumping the "opinion not valid" into the same box of "ignore it". it makes much more sense now.PlayHer Man said:Didn't say their opinions on love, sex and relationships are not valid.. I just said they should be ignored.
They are VALID only for the benefit of WOMEN. Men have nothing to gain from women's opinions on relationships. Their opinions are always self-serving and with the benefit or WOMEN in mind. Its never about the man's needs or the man's wants (why would it be? :crackup: ).
Asking women for dating advice is like a woman asking a man how to get a rich man to marry her without having sex. There is a give and take between the two genders that causes ONE side to benefit only when the other loses. This is the reason for the endless power struggle between men and women.
A woman benefits when a man spends money on her or commits to her. But the man loses money and/or opportunities to spread his seed elsewhere. A man benefits when he f*cks a woman without working for it or committing to her first. But the woman loses a relationship AND she lowers her value by adding to her c0ck count.
So why on earth would any sane man expect to get beneficial dating advice from women?
If you listen to women.. you will make a lot of women happy at your own expense. :nono:
what are you mad about? i was asking questions. i got confused. deal with it i am a noob trying to learn from my past sissy boy self.PairPlusRoyalFlush said:What are you talking about? Do men automatically have amazing insight into women's issues because they're good at engineering and math? Check your own logic. And try to come from a position of life experience like PlayHerMan instead of wearing your own ignorance as a badge of honor.
between this and PlayHerMan posting my mind is blown. it also doesnt help i am still silently sobbing over taking the GRE practice test too....why graduate school must you have a standardized test i havent taken one in over 10 yearsMike32ct said:I agree with PlayHerMan.
But the "don't take dating advice from women" was also discussed by f283000, myself, and several others a while ago. See below.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=181434&highlight=Bond