"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What Is She Saying In This Conversation

Young Stallion

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I recently had an Instant Messenger conversation with a girl and I would like to get peoples objective opinion as to what is going in them.

To be quite honest the first part of the conversation was a bit odd and I thought that in this excerpt she was telling me that she thought I was ugly. What do you people think she is trying to tell me?
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YS: what did you think when we met

Girl: I think I thought that I had seen you before

YS: really?

Girl: but I didn't know from where

Girl: yeah you are hard to miss

YS: why am I hard to miss?

Girl: and we were both headed to MRC

Girl: because you stand out, and are noticed very easily

YS: yes but what is it about me that makes me stand out and noticed esaily

Girl: your face

Girl: and your mannerisms

YS: out of curiousity what is it abou my face and mannerisms that stands out

Girl: you own a room

Girl: which I am sure I have told you before

YS: yeah

Girl: As long as its all a good thing thats great you get peoples attention and you don't even know it sometimes

YS: I do hope my face catches people in a postivie way and not because they think i look like quasimodo

Girl: you dont
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A little bit later we started talking about seeing each other again, she lives out of town and yeah we have seen each other before romantically. I am pretty sure by this convo she has low interest level, what do you guys think?

YS: Well when you come back to (Where Young Stallion lives) I shall hang out with you

Girl: everyone I know is in (Where Young Stallion Lives) ;)

Girl: Are you planning on staying in your condo for another year

YS:perhaps, I think I may move in a while

Girl: those are really nice condos

YS: Yeah they are but I want an actual condo that I have bought

YS And I want a bigger place

Girl makes sense

Girl I was just wondering

YS So yah would you like to come visit me in my current condo or come visit me in a new condo

Girl well don't tell anyone lol

Girl but I may be in the market for a place

Girl and you had mentioned that your rent is cheaper

YS why is that

YS and yeah rent is very cheap where I am

Girl its not very cheap here haha

YS so you might move back to (Where Young Stallion Lives)

Girl we have got a pretty good deal considering what other people pay,

YS well thats good

Girl yeah but thats the highest rent I have ever paid

YS LOL I wonder what it would be like if we lived in the same complex

Girl I am keeping that one on my radar right now

YS I see

Girl its great for location

YS yeah you bet

YS Would you be excited about seeing alot more of me

Girl Thats not why I am moving

Girl nice try though ;)

YS You realize you have avoided every single time I have asked about seeing you again

Girl yes

YS why is that

Girl I would like to see you, but not the way we have in the past

Girl I can't see it anymore that way

Girl I see you in a different light now I guess you could say
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Thanks guys I look forward to your opinions on both parts of the conversation.

-YS
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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konmai

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she's pretty much brushing you off and just wants to be friends. don't keep pushing it. she's actually being very polite with you. maybe because she may be moving into the same complex and don't want to burn any bridges. try asking her out again later. maybe "i am going to x at y time, you should join me." if she doesn't respond by changing the subject or whatever, then that's it. don't push it.

as for the first set of IMs, sounded like you needed too much validation. that could be a turnoff. you shouldn't have to ask a girl what she thought of you, when you two met. it just reeks of insecurity. even if you are ugly, you just don't do that. it's like when fat girls ask, if they are fat. most people aren't going to tell her she's a fat whale.
 

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she is saying i dont care about you,i have my life,you have your life..
well what you should do is : NEXT
dont waste your time on trash,get a girl who would be all over you...
ja ne
 

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The obvious thing I noticed (as did Konmai) about this conversation is that you're fishing for compliments and seeking validation way too much, especially for a guy. I think you're also being too cool with her and not doing anything to make her feel good. I don't know if this is something you do regularly, but I can see that being very offputting for a woman.

She is probably physically attracted to you, but nobody likes feeding a person's ego. It also indicates that you need reassurance. More importantly, if you're not connecting with her or making her feel something, you're just another guy on the outskirts of her life.
 

Young Stallion

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Jariel said:
I think you're also being too cool with her and not doing anything to make her feel good. I don't know if this is something you do regularly, but I can see that being very offputting for a woman.
That is an interesting statement as I was not expecting someone to say that. I thought I was being insecure for sure as people have noted, but I did not think I was being "too cool". Would you be able to expand on that? Thanks Jariel.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Jariel

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Young Stallion said:
That is an interesting statement as I was not expecting someone to say that. I thought I was being insecure for sure as people have noted, but I did not think I was being "too cool". Would you be able to expand on that? Thanks Jariel.
Judging from this conversation, you're not paying her any compliments, asking about her or showing a whole lot of interest in getting to know her. She seems to be the one asking the questions and making the effort.

I'm not saying you should keep laying on the compliments and worship her, but asking questions about her, listening and encouraging her to speak about herself goes a very long way (not just with women, but in all social settings). It can make people feel a close bond with you.
 

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Jariel said:
Judging from this conversation, you're not paying her any compliments, asking about her or showing a whole lot of interest in getting to know her. She seems to be the one asking the questions and making the effort.

I'm not saying you should keep laying on the compliments and worship her, but asking questions about her, listening and encouraging her to speak about herself goes a very long way (not just with women, but in all social settings). It can make people feel a close bond with you.
I agree. You only seem interested in yourself and are fishing for compliments, because you are insecure. You don't seem all that interested in her to be honest.
 
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