“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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What is more worth your time/money: Clubs or online dating?

skinnyguy

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I usually don't spend much at clubs since I get wasted before going out, but I think that it can eat up valuable energy if you wake up hungover the next morning...and especially if you didn't hook up. Some of my friends get belligerent if they don't hook up at a club.

With online dating, I've found that the pay sites work better and have better quality women (if you want to date a 4, be my guest and go on POF). But you still have to deal with women getting bombarded with 200 messages per day.

In the end, the quality women are going to get approached multiple times per day, whether you go to a club or go online. The question is which way is more effective.
 

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Going to church is better to meet women. Try that instead.
 

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Never understod the mentality of guys getting angry when they dont pick up girls. If I go out to clubs or bars, the last thing im there for is women.

Online datings ok, but I just prefer the face-to-face interaction with a girl over a drink or two then on a computer....but to each his own.
 

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dating sights... they all suck. Your giving those pathetic women attention they dont deserve...get out and meet people. why would i waste my time trying to cater to some girl and wine and dine her, and risk the fact she doesnt look as good in person, when I can get that all taken care of at a club? 100s of hot wasted chicks right in front of you.

for a quality gf, try the gym
 

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skinnyguy said:
I usually don't spend much at clubs since I get wasted before going out, but I think that it can eat up valuable energy if you wake up hungover the next morning...and especially if you didn't hook up. Some of my friends get belligerent if they don't hook up at a club.

With online dating, I've found that the pay sites work better and have better quality women (if you want to date a 4, be my guest and go on POF). But you still have to deal with women getting bombarded with 200 messages per day.

In the end, the quality women are going to get approached multiple times per day, whether you go to a club or go online. The question is which way is more effective.
You can go to clubs for free or dirt cheap if you know how. I went out last night and spend less then $30 that includes cover, drinks, food and parking.

Networking and making connections is easy to do if you know how to utlizie your personality

Online dating is effective for meeting women and banging them quickly however to use the words "online dating" and "quality" is a huge oxymoron

Here is a pic of a woman who hits on me online

Here is a pic of women I approach IRL

It comes down to this, are you meeting/dating/banging the type of women that you want? if online dating is getting you the type of women you want, then make it do what it do. However for me it didn't work hence I'm adamant about approaching women IRL

which would you rather deal with?
 

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Definitely bars and clubs. My success ratio in the real world dwarfs my online success. The competition is fierce online and people get loads pickier. Plus online, your mannerisms and charisma cannot shine through. Text on a screen can only do so much.

Like Solomon I can have a good night on 30 bucks. How? Well when I go out in NYC a lot of the popular bars have no cover. And its 5 bucks if they do. 30 bucks can easily pay for my transportation, cheap pregame liquor before me and the guys go out, and then a couple drinks at the bar to keep my buzz going.

No shame in pregaming after college. A lot of people still meet their friends at someones apartment or a local bar know for good pricing before they head out for the night to better places. And I usually have enough to offer a girl a drink if I feel compelled to (even though buying girls drinks isnt a norm for me)

Regarding clubs, I dont usually do the club thing anymore since covers can be expensive, the drinks are expensive and watered down and sometimes the DJs are really crap. I only go to clubs or loud bumping music venues when Im going for a specific event headlined with artists I enjoy. So while I do enjoy club atmospheres sometimes, I mainly go for dancing and the music. I much prefer a bar that has a decent dance floor. Since I have a bar thats not too loud that I can talk in, but also an area that I can pull girls towards so we can dance after chatting.
Solomon said:
It comes down to this, are you meeting/dating/banging the type of women that you want? if online dating is getting you the type of women you want, then make it do what it do. However for me it didn't work hence I'm adamant about approaching women IRL
And this is why I stopped online dating. I wasnt meeting chicks Id normally be into in the real world. And it started becoming a waste of time. And the couple of chicks I did date from OLD, were girls I knew prior to OLD. Either they or I recognized one another and reconnected thanks to OLD.

But Im positive that if we never met prior, OLD on its own wouldnt have helped me.
 
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