Yes, fair point! I felt like all of these modern developments have fed into the clown world sh*tshow we're in so couldn't avoid not talking about all the these factors.
To answer your question and to hone in, I'm curious how the guys in our community with solid SMV, masculine frame, and game are handling modern women. I hear of decent to top-notch guys struggling to deal with entitled women so men as a whole are all in the same boat. Besides maxing out SMV (looks, money, status) which honestly takes years to half-decades of consistent discipline to achieve, it seems like we have to employ extreme game. I'm talking spinning more than 5 plates and having a rolodex of friends w/ benefits you can text at any time to have fun. It's been talked about how spinning more than 3 plates is already too much when you have work and other personal obligations.
Right, that momentum is important. From my experience, once you get a lay or two in, women start sensing you differently and begin to flirt. I don't know if it's due to pheremones or micro-expressions we give off when we're relaxed, but something I've noticed.
I think I can answer. Women have changed far faster than the classic dating rules of "being a proper gentlemen" (blue pill) so that cognitive dissonance is messing men's mental health up. Men's idea of what it means to be a proper man, learned from culture, doesn't match up with evolutionary biology's real men f*ck because they DGAF mentality. Even for me, I have a hard time evolving into the cold-hearted player in response to how cruel women are, but I'm finally changing because I'm honestly tired of the BS thrown at me since I was a teenager. The concept of "being a bigger person" or "taking it like a man" are over. I believe men have been turning their shoulder on women so women themselves can act like adult men and fend for themselves like a real adult should.
Well, I guess I can attest that people have been handling modern women’s behavior the same way they did in the past. The “entitlement” you describe has existed since ancient times, and even though you and I don’t have direct experience living in those worlds, literature suggests women’s behavior hasn’t changed much; it has simply been amplified by technology.
For example, there is an Italian book released in 1528 that tells the story of a man who, after visiting a woman in her town, asked her, before leaving, to pay for his stay at the inn because she had invited him. The women that were around laughed at him and said he hardly deserved to be called a gentleman, while many of the men felt ashamed on his behalf.
Another example is a French book from 1908 that suggests women who never get into “quarrels” with their man ultimately diminish desire, because constant harmony removes the tension necessary to sustain attraction.
Which brings me to my other point:
My argument against turning the cold shoulder to women, assuming you still like them and don’t hate them, is that you need to entertain all the girls who are interested in you, because eventually you will need experience when the right woman comes along. Sadly, without experience there is no excellence. The most self-destructive move is reserve yourself for this special girl, because she will be the first woman who doesn’t value you, feels repulsed, or takes a step back due to your inexperience. Without experience, you will make mistakes, and that will signal you lack social awareness and pre-selection. Given hypergamy, which looks for the highest-value option, this will make you seem less desirable.
In other words, b turning the cold shoulder, you are throwing pre-selection away as if it has no value. You are essentially telling a woman, “No one has chosen me before,” and that is the last thing she wants to hear. Women want what they cannot have: a man with options, a man with experience, a man other women have already chosen. The worst thing you can do is make a woman feel that no other woman desires you.
In short, your best counter attack is not by emotional withdrawal but by demonstrating genuine options, since women respond to value signals like pre-selection, experience, and the ability to leave; it is the tension necessary for attraction to stay active. If a man has no options, then giving women the cold shoulder is meaningless because they simply don’t care.
