"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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What is "ASF" junior??

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In a post, someone referred to a website about chicks
called "ASF"

anyone got an address for that?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Hey, I think you're referring to my reply about the front page tip.

ASF stands for alt.seduction.fast, which was a newsgroup on seduction. It's been around for a long time, but you can find it in a more streamlined format at www.fastseduction.com

The website is run by Formhandle, and pretty much all of the big names in seduction post there. It's where all the original concepts came from.
It's more scientific and centered on getting girls. It's often more in-depth and specific than sosuave when it comes to pickup.

On the other hand, sosuave is great for inner game and is more life-centered.

I personally think that if you're new, it's best to get your inner game in check first. You might want to check out the seduction wikipedia over at fastseduction.com. It's incomplete as of now, but it explains a lot of concepts.

In that reply, I said that sosuave is often seen as "ASF junior" because most Pick-Up Gurus disdain sosuave because of all the bad advice that flourishes from the AFCs and keyboard jockeys here.
 
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Yep.
ASF = FastSeduction
ASF Junior = SoSuave
 
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btw man, this belongs in "Anything Else", not the tips section.
 
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