"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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What is a healthy perspective to have right now?

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Rubato

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I really hate breaking girl's hearts. I ended up doing it today and it always makes me feel terrible. A part of me realizes this is good, because it shows I'm not a totally callused person without regard for the feelings of others. But another part of me feels like I'm assuming too much responsibility for the other person's feelings by feeling bad, especially feeling really bad.

I have a hard time finding girls that I really like. It's easy to find girls I'd really like to have sex with, but finding girls I'd really like to have a relationship with is hard. And when I get myself involved with girls, they tend to end up wanting a relationship with me very badly, and I don't. I view them as a friend, often a very good friend, and I end up feeling terrible when it's all said and done because I've broken their heart.

What's a healthy perspective to take on all of this?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Rubato said:
I really hate breaking girl's hearts. I ended up doing it today and it always makes me feel terrible. A part of me realizes this is good, because it shows I'm not a totally callused person without regard for the feelings of others. But another part of me feels like I'm assuming too much responsibility for the other person's feelings by feeling bad, especially feeling really bad.

I have a hard time finding girls that I really like. It's easy to find girls I'd really like to have sex with, but finding girls I'd really like to have a relationship with is hard. And when I get myself involved with girls, they tend to end up wanting a relationship with me very badly, and I don't. I view them as a friend, often a very good friend, and I end up feeling terrible when it's all said and done because I've broken their heart.

What's a healthy perspective to take on all of this?
If you are being straight-forward and speaking the truth, there's nothing to "feel bad" about. Sounds like you are assuming responsibility for her feelings. Girls cry though, that's how it is. Then they go screw someone else to get over it, and so should you.

Why do you want a "relationship" so bad anyway? And why not keep fukking these girls and have several "relationships" while you are looking for "the one" who does it for you?
 

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Depending on the girls I'd say who cares if you break their hearts? Reading many of the posts by frustrated men here should show, and many other forums should show you that breaking a womens heart is perfectly ok! Cause how many mens hearts(or guys shes played games with blahblah) has she broken in the past?

Especially if the women is attractive, you know shes probably messed up some dudes in her past, so all you're doing is being the guy that gave her what she deserved for the times she was the bad girl.
 
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I would agree with the reality of what you both said about this situation, but I think it sounds like a really beta attitude. If someone is really accessing their masculinity (and thus, really being alpha), they're going to realize part of their essence is to function as a sort of "king" over their domain. And if someone is truly acting as a king, they will give regard to the way their actions influence those under their purview.

That being said, I also believe a good king is not going to allow the feelings of his subjects to compromise his ability to act and rule. That's a tough balance to reach. But I really don't think an alpha male is going to accept an attitude of reciprocity like that - that simply because a woman has acted in a negative way in the past entitles me or anyone else to reciprocate her behavior. That sounds really beta and like I'm not any better than the woman. And I believe I've basically answered my own question.

There was a really good description of the various archetypal roles of a man fully accessing his masculinity in the book King, Warrior, Magician, Lover.

And I'm not actively looking for a relationship. That's probably how it sounded. If I found someone I cared enough for to actually inspire me to want to be exclusively with her, well. I'd do it.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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