"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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What is a Don Juan?

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Hello all. I found this forum through a link from another seduction forum. I browsed through some posts, and dug for some old gems. I stumbled across something called the Don Juan Bible and a guy named Pook. I read one of his articles and understood what he was saying. Then I looked at the date it was posted... 2001. :confused:

7 years ago?! This guy was posting his seduction tips he discovered 7 years ago?? I know the concept of seduction and social interaction isn't new. But Pook was using terms like AFC. I thought these terms were created in Mystery's era. Wikipedia tells me:

"Don Juan is a roguish libertine who takes great pleasure in seducing women and (in most versions) enjoys fighting their champions. The main force of the legend revolves around his either raping or seducing a young woman of noble family, and killing her father"


I'm just confused about all of this and how it fits in with the Mystery Method, Style, NLP, ****y funny, etc. Can anyone shed some light on the subject for me?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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KontrollerX

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No no no.

Mystery and all the other "name" guys you might hear about in the media came about after Pook or came up in the game with him.

Pook helped to build this site and its message with the things he learned with his own self questioning.

Pook is better than Mystery and all the others because he gave away his information for free while scumbags like Mystery make you pay for it.

Pook no longer posts here but has a blog he regularly updates called Pook's Mill.

http://dapook.blogspot.com/

The terms used in the game like AFC have probably been around longer than Pook and Mystery.
 
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Calm down. Relax.

As far as I've read, Mystery began working on his Method in the mid-90's. Before him there was the speed seduction NLP guru Ross Jeffries who people consider to be the father of the "seduction community" as it is today.

Neil Straus aka Style is a journalist/pick-up artist who wrote a book chronicling his adventures in the community.

Don Juan was a legendary fictional seducer This forum, dedicated to meeting, attracting and dating women, was named after him.

Bottom line: None of this matters.
 

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IMHO, a Don Juan is a man who loves Life, and grows mentally, physically, emotionally and Spiritually.
He pursues High Character, and looks at his experiences as opportunities for growth and learning.
He realizes himself as Masculine and Mature Man, independent and self assured.

He loves life and is at peace and in alignment with his true self and his desires.
He seeks no one's approval.
He does not seek Ego Gratification.
He chooses Mature Win/Win Deals.

He does not grant free access to his Resources, and he does not expect it or invade other's Personal Boundaries.

He does not attach too much meaning to other's thoughts, words, or actions.

He lives life in his own realm.

He follows his own path, not the imposed path of others.

He acknowledges his OWN responsibility for his Happiness , Success, and Validation,.
He does not hang his happiness , Validation, or Identity on others.

He understands that no man is 'an island unto himself completely...
so he is at peace with being social with Men and Women.

He understands Self Care, and how to Self Manage.
He understands how to Nurture himself.
And he knows how to care for his Well Being.


He trains his mind, body, and spirit to handle adversity. And he does so with strong composure, and emotional strength,and resiliency.




He lives, learns, and plays.
 
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The Don Juan of old is the modern day equivalent of a pimp - he didn't seduce women - to be honest there is no such thing as seduction!!! Don Juan serenaded woman (that is what you had to do back then) and the hors voluntarily gave him what he went after! It is the exact same today without the serenading.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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