"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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What hasn't really worked for me....

HardTimes

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Let me run down a short list of what hasn't worked for me as far as meeting women:

* Work - no women anywhere near my age
* School - I go to night school, no women
* Parties - This is where I meet the most women but none have been interested
* Friends - Friends, even the ones with girlfriends, don't have anyone they know to introduce me to
* Family - Same as above
* Bars - Hit or miss, sometimes women are friendly and I can talk to a lot of women and sometimes the women are complete bytches and won't talk to anyone. Even when talking to women nothing has come out of it
* Club - Also hit or miss for the same reasons as above
* Other - I go to the gym and do Kenpo. Nothing here for obvious reasons

Any advice on where I am going wrong?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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It's not where you are going that's the problem it has everything to do with you. You need to work on your inner game first. Also go read the DJ Bible more than once.
 

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Here to lend you a helping hand (or text in this case.)

HardTimes said:
Let me run down a short list of what hasn't worked for me as far as meeting women:

* Work - no women anywhere near my age
Do you go for any that's older?
* School - I go to night school, no women
That sucks, but at least you're working on your degree.
* Parties - This is where I meet the most women but none have been interested
Why not?
* Friends - Friends, even the ones with girlfriends, don't have anyone they know to introduce me to
You'll have to go hunting alone.
* Family - Same as above
You're probably getting laughed at behind your back.
* Bars - Hit or miss, sometimes women are friendly and I can talk to a lot of women and sometimes the women are complete bytches and won't talk to anyone. Even when talking to women nothing has come out of it.
The friendliest ones have boyfriends. The ones who are armed with b*tch shields need to be disarmed. Can you do it?
* Club - Also hit or miss for the same reasons as above.
See above. Can you dance?
* Other - I go to the gym and do Kenpo. Nothing here for obvious reasons
Have you tried day game in bookstores or in the gym? BTW I'm glad you don't use internet dating. And what's Kenpo, is that a martial art?

Any advice on where I am going wrong?
First off, read between the lines above.

Now note that you can't rely on others in most cases where you want to go for a chick. If you want something done, you gotta do it yourself. And enjoy your life right now even though you don't have a woman.
 

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One of the bigger things I learned in life. You cant just wait around for something good to happen or someone to help you out every step. If you want to change, you have to make that change happen yourself

Its all you man. But its okay, lots of people do it....so can you.

work on your inner game, stop being dependent on family and friends for hookups, sarge daytime. try hobby clubs/town festivals? I am sure those are great places to meet new people(and new woman)
 

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nismo-4 said:
Here to lend you a helping hand (or text in this case.)


First off, read between the lines above.

Now note that you can't rely on others in most cases where you want to go for a chick. If you want something done, you gotta do it yourself. And enjoy your life right now even though you don't have a woman.
Do you go for any that's older?
I'm talking a 20+ year age gap. Their kids are closer to me in age than I am to them. I'm only 26.

That sucks, but at least you're working on your degree.
Yep

Why not?
No clue, they don't find me attractive? I've even had friends point out how *****y girls at to me compared to most other people. Maybe they are just adamant at showing their disinterest.

You'll have to go hunting alone.
I am always hunting whether I'm alone or not.

You're probably getting laughed at behind your back.
No, I get laughed at in front of me. Especially my sister.

The friendliest ones have boyfriends. The ones who are armed with b*tch shields need to be disarmed. Can you do it?
Yeah that's probably true. I suppose I haven't been successful at disarming ***** shields so far.

See above. Can you dance?
I can do "passable" hip hop dancing. I don't have any interests in learning how to be a good dancer.

Have you tried day game in bookstores or in the gym? BTW I'm glad you don't use internet dating. And what's Kenpo, is that a martial art?
Despite what people on here claim, if you even look at a woman at a gym and you don't look like Arnold (and even sometimes that's not enough) you will get eye rolled and ignored. I've seen some shredded dudes at the gym and I have --NEVER-- seen anyone successfully hit on a woman at a gym. As far as bookstores and coffee shops, I suppose I don't go there often enough for it to even matter.

And yes, Kenpo is a form of Karate.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Irs88 said:
One of the bigger things I learned in life. You cant just wait around for something good to happen or someone to help you out every step. If you want to change, you have to make that change happen yourself

Its all you man. But its okay, lots of people do it....so can you.

work on your inner game, stop being dependent on family and friends for hookups, sarge daytime. try hobby clubs/town festivals? I am sure those are great places to meet new people(and new woman)
I'm not trying to be dependent on anybody and I'm not waiting for anything. Yes my inner game needs work but I am trying.
 
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