"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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What happens when a guy "LJBF" to a girl that likes him?

ICaughtFire

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We used to get these all the times: "LJBF" from women we are very attracted to and tried damn hard to get.

But tonight i just gave a chick a taste of their own species' own medicine :D

What is likely to happen?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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She will probably think you wanted to be friends and are really not interested in anything more :p

What would happen if you got LJBF'd? Think of it that way maybe.

My 2 cents.
 

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For most guys....cry and wail and weep.....eyes blurry trying to fight off the tears and going on google search: "How to date women" and discovered sosuave.com or other jackpot websites.
 

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Learn the friendship frame. If you use it, make sure it isn't certain that you only want to be friends with her. For instance say: well, if nothing else, I think you'd be a nice friend.
OR
Let's get together *insert time and place* to get befriended.
 

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I LJBFed a girl 2 weeks ago cause she wnated a relationship and I didn't.
I drove ehr home from my friend house..all i tried ot do was kiss ehr goodnight. she wanted to makeout[i know of the style of kiss...all open-mouthed n shiet]
yea. i guess they try and except it..but not really.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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i knew a gurl once who got LJBF from a guy. Se eventually went on to other guys, but if he ever gave her a chance again, she would jump at it. Can't garantee the same results here but that's what happened...
 

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HAHA, Who's the mod who deleted my posts? Did I get too excited and turn stupid again? Probably, meh...

LJBF is truthful from a woman, so she doesn't hurt your AFC feelings, why else would she have a reason for saying it, and not tell you to just **** off and find a girl that likes you?

I work on being brutally honest when I have to, more "radically honest", somebody's got to break it down that they are being too easy on themselves... Last night I went overboard though, and ****ed two girls in less than an hour. Something to say about being an ******* or a *****, you don't like to hear what they say, but no AFC is going to tell you the truth about life.

LJBFing somebody is something you should only do when you mean it... as in you only want to be friends with them. You can be underhanded and tease her, like holding the carrot in front of the horse to make it pull your cart... use it as a tease, don't actually hurt their emotions, use them, that way she'll know your being honest, but smart at the same time. Whats that called again? Oh yeah "valuable".

So what do I think will happen after you LJBF'd that girl?

She's going to think you just want to be friends if you were friendly in the first place anyways. She will want more if there was attraction, and she will want to know why...

I still can only guess though... depends on how strong you said it to her, how much time you gave her to think about it, how close you were before the situation, and if how high your AFC factor was.

Details boy, or do you not really give a **** about the girl and just playing childish games with her to see whats going to happen? Be an ******* about it if you want real results ;)
 

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ok if you want details, here it is

i met the girl from a female band that i was invited to be in about two months ago. i didn't have much interests in her, but she was fun to flirt and tease with so i hook up with her anyways for practice

i basically flirt and tease her a lot in real life msn and phone text messages, we hung out three times, first two times were movies and the last time was just a few days ago.

i kinda knew she liked me, she responded well to my flirtings, such as me calling her sugar and she saying it was hot etc. But on the other hand i was giving her mixed signals, neg hit her, treaing her nothing more than just a good friend etc, she wonders if i like her at all, once she asked me what kind of a friend she is to me, but i just avoided the question and point it to another direction.

the last hang out we had was after her rehersal for a play late at night. i gave her a surprise visit and she seemed shy and embrassed to see me, i was expecting her to be shocked....

Then afterwards it was quite late malls and shops are closed so we went to downtown to Hard Rock Cafe. But it was so late that no meals were being served lol so we just ordered ice cream and talked. Then some band started playing and it was quite good, we had some laughs and more good convo.

It was 12:30 am by then and her overprotective mom kept texting her to come back home

so we walked back, and on the subway trip home we talked about this girl i saw at her rehersal, which is also from our school and i talked to her somewhat just friendly convo.

then she teases me of how i am interested in her, and asked me if i want her msn since she has it. i said ya, and she teased me more that i want to go out with her.

then i told her no man, i just wanna get to know her and become good friends, just like you and me.

then she just quickly said: ya ya i know. but she just looked at the ground with a blank face and became silent for a few seconds

so ya it was a subtle: LJBF. and i wonder what's gonna happen to her
 

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Well it is up to you from here on, you've got to make the move. Go back to teasing her, but the ball is in your court again. You stole it, make the game fun for her, before you find out who wins in the end. So you've got the ball in your hands, time to play with her for a little bit, she said you liked her, and tried to tease you, than you totally ****blocked her! Kick ass frickin job, I commend you, I've got trouble noticing when I should do that, you pulled it off at the perfect moment, I laughed out loud literally and got a weird stare from a friend of mine.

So now we know, she was interested, she's not going to **** somebody else, if you don't let her. You man up, you SAID you wanted to be friends, so what are you going to do? Lie to her, I hope you were telling her the truth, she really likes you. She wants to be more than friends, keep it that way.

Tell her you want to be friends, but make her horny, be her confidante, without being a ***** about it. Be the man of her dreams, you slipped under the radar, you have a chance to do a lot of emotional damage here, so don't miss the target, or you WILL be revealed to be the enemy.

Be nice, without ****ing it up for yourself, be fun around her, keep teasing her. I wish I could say more, but still DETAILS, You are hiding your feelings brutha, there's no anger, your conversation there is cut and chooped, I can't tell you how to think, without KNOWING how you think...

Come on, be my friend, tell me how you feel. Pretend I'm gay, get your feelings really into it. Pretend I'm gay, and you are being a real man, get some feelings flowing, raw powerful emotions, use your instincts when you tell me this, tryand solve it on paper, before you **** up in person.

I hope your still being really friendly with her right now, and not showing that your nervous around her like you are scared. I hope your not talking behind her back, about something she thinks isn't true, yet. I hope your not avoiding her altogether, and lying to sosuave, yourself, and her at the same time. I hope I am not too late to save you.

So come on, be a man, tell us what you are afraid of.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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LOL im not hiding anything

but truth is im not sure if i should actually go out with her, she just doesn't seem like the type of girl for me, she is too flirteous, and from past dating experience she told me it seems like she doesn't have the commitment, passion and loyalty to hold a relationship together, but those are some of the most important things i look for when i do want to be with a girl

besides that, the last relationship i had was a superbly great one, the girl probably has everything i ask for from a perfect gf, but unfortunately it just doesn't work out. but her shadow is still hanging over me, and now i find it very difficult to actually feel emotionally attracted to any girl that is under my ex's standard.

so im not too sure about it, and i want to keep a fun, casual, teasing, flirting good friends relationship with her until im sure.
 

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hey etho, i dont quite get this part u wrote:

So now we know, she was interested, she's not going to **** somebody else, if you don't let her. You man up, you SAID you wanted to be friends, so what are you going to do? Lie to her, I hope you were telling her the truth, she really likes you. She wants to be more than friends, keep it that way.

Tell her you want to be friends, but make her horny, be her confidante, without being a ***** about it. Be the man of her dreams, you slipped under the radar, you have a chance to do a lot of emotional damage here, so don't miss the target, or you WILL be revealed to be the enemy.

care to explain please?
 

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The last time i gave a girl the ol' LJBF she got b1tchy and tried to fvck up my relationship with my girlfriend and eventually i broke up with her.

Has this happened to you all much?

I hate girls:)
 

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Originally posted by ICaughtFire
So now we know, she was interested, she's not going to **** somebody else, if you don't let her. You man up, you SAID you wanted to be friends, so what are you going to do? Lie to her, I hope you were telling her the truth, she really likes you. She wants to be more than friends, keep it that way.

Tell her you want to be friends, but make her horny, be her confidante, without being a ***** about it. Be the man of her dreams, you slipped under the radar, you have a chance to do a lot of emotional damage here, so don't miss the target, or you WILL be revealed to be the enemy.
I don't know why, but seducing women is always so cute:p subway, her mom, msn, all that, so cute... just have to say it... awwwww!

Well I was trying to say. When you guys were splitting there, she teased, asking if you wanted to go out, from the way she acted, well you say she acted, and than after you LJBF'd her... it just shows that she wants you still, or got sad, because you didn't want her. The shy and embarrassed part though, she was surprised, thats for sure, or she wouldn't have given a ****. So the LJBF worked, in your favour.

What you ahve got to do now, is be just a friend, treat her like one of the guys, thing is, if you treat her like one of the guys, don't act like one of the top guys, and keep blowing her off, she will move on to easier men. So I guess I was trying to say, make yourself a challenge, not too hard though, keep playing with her.

Damn this explanation stuff is hard, my best go out to mystery, durden, and all those guys out there. Excellent writing comprehension skills.
 
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