"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What gives????!!!

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Ok, I recently got a new girlfriend, like within the past 2 weeks. She's smart as sh!t, the entire night I had her talking about philosophy and sports and her family & friends. I've known her since the begining of the summer (met in an advanced summer school class) but we've only started dating exclusively recently.

Anyways... so the way that came about...

2 weeks ago we were making out, and I got hard n sh!t, and couldn't control myself and so I started kissing more of her body, got to 2nd base, started going for 3rd when she's like

her: I've never done this with anyone so fast before... we've only gone out on like 3 dates
me: ok... be my girlfriend then
her: right

Then we had a talk and she's a virgin. Yes!! Nothing else of importance to you the reader happened that night.

So anyways I took her out last night, my last night in this state, as far as she's concerned (I'm moving tomorrow). After eating dinner at some ritzy place, we headed over to my place to play some strip gummy bears, and my ass winds up getting naked without her getting naked at all. Damnit. Yeah so we start kissing and I get her naked and start rubbing her thighs, kissing her neck, nibbling her ears, start fingering her, licking her cl!t, etc. I ended up eating her out for like 30 minutes (a record for me!!!!) and seemed like I was doing a damn good job of it too because she was quivering, moaning, and didn't want to move after I was done. I told her I needed to go get a towel and went to the bathroom to wash my mouth out, and went to the car to get some condoms because I thought it would be an easy lay.

So I came back and she's fully dressed... I got her naked again (it didn't take much since she was wearing a skirt) and tell her to get me hard. She starts dry humping me and moaning and sh!t and I get really turned on and ask her about the problem she has just created. She said "eh, maybe later".

WHAT???

I took you out, fingered you, ate you out, etc. and you won't even touch it? What gives??

She said maybe later. To quote her: "I really like you but I don't think it's time we do that yet." I didn't press the issue at all but did get dressed after making out some more, then I took her home.

Seriously, what gives? Why do I not have my needs satisfied? I mean, seriously I love pleasuring her because she's fine as hell and I like to watch her facial expression when I rub her cl!t, but why the hell doesn't she want to do anything for me?? It seems like the in the relationship in general, I'm the one who's always calling, buying her stuff, picking her up, etc.

Maybe it's a cultural thing. She was born in another country and still doesn't have American citizenship. She's also the only girlfriend I've had that is emotionally stable, and has a very good father. Mind you I'll stick with this one for a while, she's a keeper.

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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I think that persistance is the key here.

Respect

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sounds strange

i have been with a few virgins and it doesn't seem to match up with any of my experiences

and went to the car to get some condoms

LOL yeah i hate having to leave the scene of the crime to get condoms :)

started going for 3rd when she's like

her: I've never done this with anyone so fast before... we've only gone out on like 3 dates


this stands out to me

she didn't say " i have never done this with anyone before "

she said " i have never done this with anyone so fast before "

which is something 85% of the women i have sex with say :)

she doesn't sound like a virgin from her above statement

she admits to DOING IT BEFORE... maybe 3rd base... maybe more

and my ass winds up getting naked without her getting naked at all

we all learn that one the hard way :)

I ended up eating her out for like 30 minutes (a record for me!!!!)

i never did that with none of my virgins. i feel bad for ya :crackup:

and tell her to get me hard. She starts dry humping me and moaning and sh!t

now a real virgin isn't much good at anything

NOT even dry humping. this may bring me into conflict with alot of Don Juans on the board WHO ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO BELIEVE women when told they are a virgin.

dry humping is simulating the act of sex

how good was she at dry humping. like there is dry humping and then there is dry humping that only a chick who has been all the way knows what she is imagining in her mind

She said "eh, maybe later".

what the f*ck ? thats :

1. magical self control

2. just had oral sex plus been naked twice

3. very casual / flippant remark about sex

"I really like you but I don't think it's time we do that yet."

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i have never had a woman say that to me so i can't help you lol

any Don Jauns who have a ******** dictionary help us out ?

what do you think she means by that DrMetallica ?

also how old is she and what country is she from ?


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By the sound of it you got the shorter end of the stick. She didn't reciprocate sexual favors much and she got what she possibly wanted out of this encounter. Next time make her work for every lick while eating out. You didnt come out to be much of a challenge i reckon.
 

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lol man lost in translation you had me bustin up throughout your entire post.

She said she had been through some sh!t in her life. I asked her what that meant, she said "I don't want to talk about it right now". I said well, were you molested? No. Raped? No. Are you a virgin? Yes. I asked her why she was a virgin. She said when you're 17 and in high school and have only been in a 6 month relationship "I just felt like I didn't want to have sex, but that changes as I get older".

Yeah, her dry humping sucked. lol.

the "I really like you but I don't think it's time we do that yet."

I think she means she isn't ready to be that intimate yet maybe? 2 weeks ago when we were making out, she wouldn't let me go into her pants, then 1 week ago I fingered her, and last night oral sex.

I know she digs the hell outta me. She told me she really digged me and she was glad she took the summer school class so she met me, told all her friends about the cute guy she liked in summer school, etc. I even make jokes like punch her arm and say, "Damn baby, you're falling for me, I know it" and she blushed and said I already fell for you.

She's damn smart too... she reads more than I do! We're talking War and Peace reading... I couldn't believe it. Gets good grades, athlete, her family is warm and friendly, she has a sexy accent!!.

She's 19 and from England
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Originally posted by Life-Trainee
By the sound of it you got the shorter end of the stick. She didn't reciprocate sexual favors much and she got what she possibly wanted out of this encounter. Next time make her work for every lick while eating out. You didnt come out to be much of a challenge i reckon.
Exactly. What do you mean make her work for every lick?

I mean, sometimes I kiss her, stop, and pull back, and she'll come in to keep kissing me. How do I become a challenge in the sack, when it's me who wants to f*ck her brains out?
 

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raped virgins

DrMetallica

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74149

^^^ i lay the smack down about women who say they are virgins but aren't because they have been molested / raped / sex while drunk and numerous other situations

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74564

^^^ a few more barbs about lying b*tches

DrMetallica
Are you a virgin? Yes. I asked her why she was a virgin. She said when you're 17 and in high school and have only been in a 6 month relationship "I just felt like I didn't want to have sex, but that changes as I get older".

i smell a story... there is something going on there...

anyways read the threads i linked for you and post an update if her behaviour or actions fit with any of the women i posted about


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I would just relax and take it easy.

If she is in fact a virgin, you went plenty far for one night.

Do you really like this girl?

Alright, then waiting another date (or 3) shouldn't be a big deal. It might be frustrating, but there's no sign she won't be putting out soon enough. Youll get some. There's not much point in pushing and potentially pushing her away.
 

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Originally posted by Flogger
Do you really like this girl?
Hell yes man. I can't stop thinking about her... I've been doing it for the past 3 months!!

Haha, she has like 3 jobs and so I started the push/pull marriage thing. The thing is, all my damn questions she answered affirmatively!!

me: You are awesome, lets get married!
her: ok!
me: wait... can you cook?
her: yah, not crazy dishes but I can cook most things (she probably learned from her mom, her "mum" is always cooking muffins for me lol)
me: sweet. can you clean?
her: ya
me: wow. can you give me bomb massages anytime I want?
her: yup
me: ... can you support my decision to be a stay at home husband while you go out and make tons of money for me?
her: yes. but are you good with kids?
me: hell yes, I love making babies!
her: *cracks up*

then later she told me as all europeans do that she does not like ice in her water... in fact, she doesn't like ice at all!! I said I'd go down to the lawyers office to go get the papers to file for divorce... but then asked if she can cook really good macoroni n cheese, she said yes, so the marriage is still on.

But in all seriousness, I actually want to get married to a chick like this...
 

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Sounds like a great first love.

If that's the case, I'd honestly just enjoy the ride. Complete control isn't always the best approach, especially not when you're both learning.

Keep being your natural self. If that self is a DJ, all the better.

Funny, in a lot of cases, British chicks just sound smarter. Lucky you -- the accent matches the expectation. :)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

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Dr. Metallica, you seem like a pushy dikhead. Tryin to get her to loose her virginity after knowing her for like 2 weeks???? :rolleyes:
 

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was this the first time you tried to have sex with her?

im thinking with her type , third time is a charm

shes a girl who wants to act innocent as long as she can because she was taught to be good to get a good guy.
 
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Originally posted by Mojo604
Tryin to get her to loose her virginity after knowing her for like 2 weeks???? :rolleyes:

I agree with this notion. However she knows what she was getting into and I have a feeling that she knew she was gonna get some and that she felt that she didn't have to reciprocate.

Storytime

I knew this AW who was seeing this Marine who was by all means not an AFC all up unto one critical point. One night things are getting heavy and he goes down on her for some time. After she's done, he starts getting naked and she immediately says "what are you doing"? He never got to have sex with her and she never sexually returned the favor. Not even bumping into his c0ck on accident. Nothing.

I do not honestly see you getting far with her sexually without jumping through many more proverbial hoops which by completion doesn't guarantee you a slot.

Just like military flight school.

Have fun but don't expect much from her. Just my opinion...don't take my word for it.
 
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