"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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what ebooks are good? no fake crap or pickupline stuff

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im jsut wondering which ones are good but im not interested in those books that focus massively on just getting a girl with stupid techniques and stuff.

more basic stuff, and innergame stuff, perhaps?
reading dyd atm. suggestions welcome
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Don't get any e-books. Everything that can help should be in the DJ bible or the DJ tips section. Reading too much is a fault of a lot of guys here, myself included.
 

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more basic stuff, and innergame stuff, perhaps?
---> DJ Bible, for free through this forum.

That, and going out a lot, having a healthy social life & lifting weights.

For getting laid right now --> The System (by Roy Valentine)
For picking up being the real you without canned S**t --> How to be a pickup artist (Wayne Elise aka Juggler)

That's what I would recommend & nothing more, there you have the 'complete package' covered: inner stuff, a easy step by step plan for getting laid & a gameplan for being more charismatic & social.

At least, that's what has worked for me, nothing more and everything in the KISS (keep it simple stupid) category, Hope it helps ;)
 

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I highly recommend "Weapons of Mass Seduction" by Senor Fingers. It's on the same page as the bible.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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"The Way of the Superior Man" and "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People"

These are books btw, not e-books. For about $12 each, I garuntee you one of the two will succeed in changing the way you look at life and/or women.
 

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If you wanna get good at getting chicks, STAY THE HELL AWAY from any and all seduction material. It REEKS of loneliness and desperation! DYD, Jeffries, Mystery... uggh! If you want to educate yourself, GREAT! Get some books on bodybuilding, philosophy, finance, etc. Don't waste the precious hours of your life READING about women. If you READ, read for YOURSELF. If you want to take ACTION that will result in WOMEN, go out there and MEET women! And don't give me any of that "i don't really know how" crap :) Some of the best and easiest approaches i've done started out with "alright, i don't really know how to do this, but..."

P.S. Alright, i'll allow for just one tinnyy exception (after seeing the post above). Fingers IS good, and so is Pook. That's all i can think of at the moment that i wouldn't consider to be a waste of time.
 

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just a question about the bible, is it the one with step 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 thing?
because i have a "DJ bible redone" or something likethat in a pdf file and they dont seem to be the same ;o
 

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Krassus said:
If you wanna get good at getting chicks, STAY THE HELL AWAY from any and all seduction material. It REEKS of loneliness and desperation! DYD, Jeffries, Mystery... uggh! If you want to educate yourself, GREAT! Get some books on bodybuilding, philosophy, finance, etc. Don't waste the precious hours of your life READING about women. If you READ, read for YOURSELF. If you want to take ACTION that will result in WOMEN, go out there and MEET women! And don't give me any of that "i don't really know how" crap :) Some of the best and easiest approaches i've done started out with "alright, i don't really know how to do this, but..."

P.S. Alright, i'll allow for just one tinnyy exception (after seeing the post above). Fingers IS good, and so is Pook. That's all i can think of at the moment that i wouldn't consider to be a waste of time.
And brazilian blues boy.

Besides that, he's right. David D is good, but not worth it man (though I suspect you won't be "paying" for these) if you are going to pay. If I had to suggest one of the "gurus" Go with DYD: Attraction isn't a choice. Don't focus on the techniques, just working yourself.
 

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The Secrets of Mature Masculinity. Dr. Paul. It's 40 bucks but i found it useful because its phycologically based
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I'm still waiting for Angelus to publish his master peice works "Learn how to be a troll for in just 21 short days" and "Trolling for Dummies"

Seriously, almost all of the stuff out there works in one way or another. It all depends on what you want to accomplish with women exactly. In every hobby there is some guys who will swear one thing is awesome and XYZ thing sucks. If you ever notice, the top level guys rarely get too involved in this stuff, because there are guys who are awesome at all kind of things.

I ran into the same stuff when I did catch wrestling. Guys would always want to argue this, that, or the other style. The truth is most guys doing the argueing weren't good *at any* style, so it was all just mental masterbation anyway. One guy always claimed BJJ was the best, yet he had no idea one of his instructors actually trained with us and went on and on about how effective what we did is and how it improved his game. I never even bothered to say anything... it was just too funny.
 

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48 laws of power is great. as is "the art of seduction" from same author.

i disagree with krassus here.

education in a wide variety of OTHER subjects is just that - an education in a wide variety of OTHER SUBJECTS!

there is no reason to avoid becoming educated in this particular avenue of endeavor.

you need to learn how to drive a car, you even need to learn how to ride a bike or swim.... there's nothing that separates the endeavor or getting women from these others. and while most of us learn to swim and ride a bike by doing, it CAN be learned by reading and prepping your mind for what's in store for you.

only thing i would say is to continue this survey and make sure you don't get ripped off because unfortunately, many are harvesting the PUA scene to make money at your expense.

do a search for me or the word "BIBLIOGRAPHY" and i have a list of books that you can get from barnes and nobles.... there's something to be said for publications that actually went through the editorial/winnowing process of major publishers.

delta
 

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Re:

Delta said:
48 laws of power is great. as is "the art of seduction" from same author.

i disagree with krassus here.

education in a wide variety of OTHER subjects is just that - an education in a wide variety of OTHER SUBJECTS!

there is no reason to avoid becoming educated in this particular avenue of endeavor.

you need to learn how to drive a car, you even need to learn how to ride a bike or swim.... there's nothing that separates the endeavor or getting women from these others. and while most of us learn to swim and ride a bike by doing, it CAN be learned by reading and prepping your mind for what's in store for you.

only thing i would say is to continue this survey and make sure you don't get ripped off because unfortunately, many are harvesting the PUA scene to make money at your expense.

do a search for me or the word "BIBLIOGRAPHY" and i have a list of books that you can get from barnes and nobles.... there's something to be said for publications that actually went through the editorial/winnowing process of major publishers.

delta


You're going to get alot of opinions on this with some people saying "Dont buy this, Dont buy that...this is crap, just be a better man..."

Listen just read for yourself and you decide. I honestly have about 40 e-books, about 5 of which I really find useful. Education and knowledge is the key. Certain books will give you a broad understanding of things and open your eyes. I'm old enough to know all of this stuff as Ive been going out for 21 active years now to bars, clubs etc. If I were you I would read a few books on personal development first: 7 Habits of Highly Effective People, Feel the Fear and Do It Anyway, The Way of the Superior Man, and then from there pick up 'The Art of Seduction' and the 48 Laws of Power.

Now ebooks are nothing more than regular books but cheaper to make because you dont have to have a true publisher, editor and such. Dont listen to other peoples opinion, there can be some useful gems if you search hard enough and skim over the BS.
 

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there's nothing wrong with ebooks per-se but it's harder to figure out who's legit. and if you have to pay for it to find out, if you can't peruse it at the store before you buy, the chances of you getting ripped off is higher.

i am not advising against ebooks... but it does require more caution.

again, publishers are valuable in that they have a REPUTATION to guard. they're less likely (notice i say merely less likely) to put out completely worthless trash with every other word misspelled and not a coherent sentence in the whole thing.

delta
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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