Packers2010
Master Don Juan
the girl i was talking to said she acts diffidently around me because i was a guy. now is this a good thing or a bad thing. it's a bad thing right?
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
teddy240 said:Acting differently is not a good sign. Phrases like "I feel so comfortable with you" "i can be myself" or "Ive never done anything like this before" are good things. "Acting different" means she is uncomfortable, but it would help if you gave more detail.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
well she also said she has no emotional connection with me?Joe Stud said:its a good sign. girls who "feel comfortable around you" are LJBF. They want you... for their GIRLfriend.
A girl who is uncomfortable and uneasy around you has an attraction. "on an emotional roller coaster ride" I believe is the term we use here.
think about it. If you are talking to the fattie next door about the meatloaf you burned, you are comfortable. If you are talking to the HB9 next door about coming over to watch a video ... you have some uneasiness. Butterflies in your stomach indicate a sense of value to what you are doing. she values you
dude you don't get it.Mantis Toboggan said:Let me guess. This is your 10th thread about the same girl. The one you've known for like a decade and never made a move on.
Why do you keep coming on this site asking high school-level questions about some girl you have zero chance with? Be a man. Move on.
Packers2010 said:dude you don't get it.
this is the girl i want and this is the girl i am going to get!. FvCK everyone else!!
no more bull**** man.
i'm not a a guy who just spends 30 secs with a girl then moves on.
i am going to try everything on this girl. so i know when it's all done and she still says no, i know i tried my BEST and it wasn't good enough!
before i would never have done anything but now, it's different, it's war!
Uhhh....Packers...man,what is wrong with you? You ok dude?Packers2010 said:dude you don't get it.
this is the girl i want and this is the girl i am going to get!. FvCK everyone else!!
no more bull**** man.
Packers2010 said:i'm not a a guy who just spends 30 secs with a girl then moves on.
i am going to try everything on this girl. so i know when it's all done and she still says no, i know i tried my BEST and it wasn't good enough!
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.