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what dose it mean when a girl says she " acts" differently around you?

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the girl i was talking to said she acts diffidently around me because i was a guy. now is this a good thing or a bad thing. it's a bad thing right?
 

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You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Acting differently is not a good sign. Phrases like "I feel so comfortable with you" "i can be myself" or "Ive never done anything like this before" are good things. "Acting different" means she is uncomfortable, but it would help if you gave more detail.
 
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I'd say, yes I noticed! Compared to my other friend girl, you are strange!


Man oh man, if I could only get over my fear and approach a girl................I'm gonna say it to the next prostitute that is lucky enough to get my money!
 

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teddy240 said:
Acting differently is not a good sign. Phrases like "I feel so comfortable with you" "i can be myself" or "Ive never done anything like this before" are good things. "Acting different" means she is uncomfortable, but it would help if you gave more detail.

i get what you mean. i know why it has been weired between us. what the problem is, is that me and this girl used to be close and she misses that. but i know if we become close again. i will have like no chance being more than friends with her.

thats why she isn't comfy because it's not what it used to be. i told her i wanted to be for then friends ( i don't care if it was the wrong thing to do. i had to tell her, for me) she told me to ask again in 3 months.( she just got out of a relationship that lasted 3 years.) witch i know is her way of saying no. i already expected that. well i expected an out right no. not come back in 3 months.
 

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its a good sign. girls who "feel comfortable around you" are LJBF. They want you... for their GIRLfriend.

A girl who is uncomfortable and uneasy around you has an attraction. "on an emotional roller coaster ride" I believe is the term we use here.

think about it. If you are talking to the fattie next door about the meatloaf you burned, you are comfortable. If you are talking to the HB9 next door about coming over to watch a video ... you have some uneasiness. Butterflies in your stomach indicate a sense of value to what you are doing. she values you
 

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I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Joe Stud said:
its a good sign. girls who "feel comfortable around you" are LJBF. They want you... for their GIRLfriend.

A girl who is uncomfortable and uneasy around you has an attraction. "on an emotional roller coaster ride" I believe is the term we use here.

think about it. If you are talking to the fattie next door about the meatloaf you burned, you are comfortable. If you are talking to the HB9 next door about coming over to watch a video ... you have some uneasiness. Butterflies in your stomach indicate a sense of value to what you are doing. she values you
well she also said she has no emotional connection with me?

i'm guessing a bad thing?

i can't gage anything now cos she just got out of a relationship. she just something to " play" now i think. i wouldn't mind " playing" but i would rather a LTR with her. but playing is just fine.
 

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Let me guess. This is your 10th thread about the same girl. The one you've known for like a decade and never made a move on.

Why do you keep coming on this site asking high school-level questions about some girl you have zero chance with? Be a man. Move on.
 

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Mantis Toboggan said:
Let me guess. This is your 10th thread about the same girl. The one you've known for like a decade and never made a move on.

Why do you keep coming on this site asking high school-level questions about some girl you have zero chance with? Be a man. Move on.
dude you don't get it.

this is the girl i want and this is the girl i am going to get!. FvCK everyone else!!

no more bull**** man.

i'm not a a guy who just spends 30 secs with a girl then moves on.

i am going to try everything on this girl. so i know when it's all done and she still says no, i know i tried my BEST and it wasn't good enough!

before i would never have done anything but now, it's different, it's war!
 

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Packers2010 said:
dude you don't get it.

this is the girl i want and this is the girl i am going to get!. FvCK everyone else!!

no more bull**** man.

i'm not a a guy who just spends 30 secs with a girl then moves on.

i am going to try everything on this girl. so i know when it's all done and she still says no, i know i tried my BEST and it wasn't good enough!

before i would never have done anything but now, it's different, it's war!

No. I get it. You're desperate and here's the only woman who's paying you any attention.

But whatever. Good luck with this. I'm sure with your Can-Do attitude and your dozens of stupid questions, you'll not only date this girl, you'll turn it into a wonderful relationship.
 

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Packers2010 said:
dude you don't get it.

this is the girl i want and this is the girl i am going to get!. FvCK everyone else!!

no more bull**** man.
Uhhh....Packers...man,what is wrong with you? You ok dude?

Listen to yourself....


"this is the girl i want and this is the girl i am going to get! Fvck everyone else!!"

Do you hear yourself? You sound like a madman possessed. Possessed with desperation.



What was that thing you said? It was.....oh,ok,I remember. It was......

"before i would never had done anything but now,it's different,it's war!"



Uhh..."WAR"???? You said "war",right? So you're going to "war",ALL IN ATTEMPT just to date some chick?

Are you that desperate for female attention?


While I applaud your "go to war/gung-ho" spirit,all that energy and drive is pointed in the wrong direction. Joe Stud was right,and so was Mantis Toboggan.



You disagreed with Mantis,but he was right. You can't see it because you're blinded by neediness and desperation. For one second,take a step back and look at that reply of yours in reply #8. Imagine that someone else had written it and you were reading it for the first time.


Wouldn't you think they were nuts? How can ONE GIRL cause such behavior to come out of a man if he were really strong and in control of himself?


Packers2010 said:
i'm not a a guy who just spends 30 secs with a girl then moves on.

i am going to try everything on this girl. so i know when it's all done and she still says no, i know i tried my BEST and it wasn't good enough!

I actually agree with you on this. I'm all for trying my best and putting your all into gaining a girl's interest,but dude.....you're all off track with this one,that part is clear.

You know how I can tell? It's easy.


Look at the conversation between you two? You're not doing ANY of the things to create any attraction in her. It's like TALKING ABOUT putting gas in your car versus actually PUTTING GAS in your car.


You TOLD HER that you wanted to be more than friends,right? Uhh...why?

WHY did you say that to her? This is what you're blinded to-----Why did you have to TELL HER that you wanted to be more than friends?

Couldn't she tell it by how you behaved towards her?


Did you do anything to attract her? Did you flirt,tease,neg,compliment her,ASK HER OUT ON A DATE, or use sexual innuendo?


Sorry man,but you screwed up. If you have to TELL a girl that you want to be more than friends,that means that you haven't been doing a good job of communicating that interest to her in all your previous interactions.


And that's bad. REAL bad.


Honestly though,it appears that you're in the friendzone with this girl. I say that because you mentioned something about how you and this girl used to be close in the past. If that's the case,then it's over dude.


This "war" you plan on going to,you lost it before even firing a single shot.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

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So, therefore recall the troops and tell them to come back home, lol.
 
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