"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What does she mean actually? Please Help

Lost In the Seas

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OK i will try keep this concise and short:

My ex and I broke up two months ago, i don't think we were truly in love, but we were just TOTALLY crazy for eachother, but things all go wrong when i became AFC, always there for her, always nice to her, rarely disagree with her, failed to become a chanllenge and a myster etc, all keys for a successful 1st stage relationship

I want to be back with her, and i started to neg hit, and tease her a lot, sometimes i would just ignore her totally and she would still call me up to chit chat. I would flirt and hit on her friends, and show hints that i have other girls, i have an occupied life

Over that last two months things have been going up and down, sometimes it seemed like we were back together with the same feeling we had when we still have affections for eacohther, but then soon after it would die down and then it is back again, then die down again, we can sum it up as a roller coaster ride

then today we talked and somehow we got to the subject of changing personality, and here's the rough overview of the conversation:

M: Have i changed as a person? Other than the fact that i start to tease u and make fun of you lol
G: Ya, you are a different person, and not just being mean too, but dont' ask me how
M: What was i like before?
G: Nicer, warmer, friendlier
M: And you want me to treat you the same way i used to treat you?
G: No
G: Yes
G: I mean i don't mind
G: If you want to then ya
M: I thought things were different so i can be colder to you and just treat you as a normal friend, but maybe i over done that
M: I just don't know what i think of you
G: Do you like anyone at this moment of your life?
G: It is a yes or no answer, you don't need to tell me her name and what grade
G: Just tell me do you like anyone now?

I know i became AFC-ish and might have just dug my own grave, but i just don't get some of the signs or ******** she said, when i tell her do you want me to treat you nicer warmer, just like the way i used to treat you when we were bf gf, she first said no then quickly said yes, then said i don't mind etc, and what is her intention of asking me who i like at the end of the convo?

I waited for a few min then i said i need to crash now havne't slept in two days, which was true and didn't answer her Q

I think i did bad =-=
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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08aisaac

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It seems like she wants you back and that you seemed pretty good but Idk because she'a a girl and you can never tell with female's. They don't know what they want but I have known that alot of them want someone that fills the role of bf. I had a gf like this and we had broken up and she seemed to like all these different guys and I thought, "Good for her" but then she has this convo and says that she was only happy with me and basically begged me to get back with her so this girl probaly wants you back.

So just wait it out and I find that if a girl really likes you, you don't really have to use any techniques like c & f. But maybe you didn't have to confess your feelings like that. lol. But she might think you are mad because girls always seek to impress the guys they like and they always think they aren't doing enough and they think it makes there guys mad or something. You don't have to worry about anything because she likes you already but maybe you should lay off on the techniques and probaly just wait around maybe talk to her every now and then and then get back together with her.
 

spider_007

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Originally posted by Lost In the Seas
M: And you want me to treat you the same way i used to treat you?
G: No
G: Yes
G: I mean i don't mind
G: If you want to then ya
In another words no don't treat me the way you used to....

and here is tip for ya; you don't discuss that subject with your woman. take hints from her, don't just come out and ask her "do you like the whay i've been treating you?"
 

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Wether she wants you or not, move on. If she does want you, and it seems as though she may be coming around to that , she will want you more if you've moved on. If she doesn't want you, then you've saved yourself alot of trouble and time.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Re: Re: What does she mean actually? Please Help

Originally posted by spider_007
and here is tip for ya; you don't discuss that subject with your woman. take hints from her, don't just come out and ask her "do you like the whay i've been treating you?"
Absolutely correct. Never tell them this.

Damnit man! She even asked if you liked anyone else. You shoulda been like "yea but wen I think about you I dont anymore"

Just game the girl up and make her feel good and all that sh*t.:)
 

Uber noober

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A lil afc isnt bad, if used correctly you will get girls to want you even more.
 
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